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Old 10-19-2007, 05:01 PM   #31
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Old 03-04-2019, 03:19 PM   #32
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Yeah, maybe I was being unclear. I was referring to things that happen to you which may not be your fault, but you try to ignore them hoping that they'll go away or someone else who actually caused the problem will fix it. It's that sort of 'live and let god' mentality that I'm referring to. I've found if I take responsibility for a lot of stuff I would otherwise ignore, things tend to sort out better.
That is one of Jordan Peterson's basic tenets. via Guardian

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“It’s all very well to think the meaning of life is happiness, but what happens when you’re unhappy? Happiness is a great side effect. When it comes, accept it gratefully. But it’s fleeting and unpredictable. It’s not something to aim at – because it’s not an aim. And if happiness is the purpose of life, what happens when you’re unhappy? Then you’re a failure. And perhaps a suicidal failure. Happiness is like cotton candy. It’s just not going to do the job.”

But how do we build meaning? By putting it before expediency. Which is quite close to simply “acting right”. Peterson believes that everyone is born with an instinct for ethics and meaning. It is also a matter of responsibility – you need to have the courage to voluntarily shoulder the great burden of being in order to move towards that meaning. This is what the biblical stories tell us. The great world stories have a moral purpose – they teach us how to pursue meaning over narrow self-interest. Whether it’s Pinocchio, The Lion King, Harry Potter or the Bible, they are all saying the same thing – take the highest path, pick up the heaviest rock and you will have the hope of being psychologically reborn despite the inevitable suffering that life brings.
"voluntarily shoulder the great burden of being" -- is one of those unmistakably Peterson phrases. But it's the whole thing, innit? That there is life.
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Old 03-04-2019, 05:01 PM   #33
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:59 AM   #34
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Binge eating is total bliss
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:09 PM   #35
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bein' happy

First, lean into life. (edit: fuck that...do *this instead)

Second, crush your enemies, drive them before you, take pleasure in the lamentations of their women.









*"I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" -Seuss

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Old 03-19-2019, 10:10 PM   #36
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First, lean into life. (edit: fuck that...do *this instead)

Second, crush your enemies, drive them before you, take pleasure in the lamentations of their women.

*"I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" -Seuss
I don't know if I should be creeped out by this or if maybe we are distant relatives.

Are you from Texas?
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:55 PM   #37
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Henry's from the real America, but he left out drinking from the skull of your enemy.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:13 AM   #38
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First, lean into life. (edit: fuck that...do *this instead)

Second, crush your enemies, drive them before you, take pleasure in the lamentations of their women....
Always interesting reading your posts HQ. Sometimes confusing but always interesting. And thank you for allowing me to reasonably consider myself somewhat normal in comparison.

You wouldn't be from Texas by any chance, would you?

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I don't know if I should be creeped out by this or if maybe we are distant relatives.

Are you from Texas?
Hey Phuct. Nice to see you here. It's been a while. My regards to BeatsTheShit

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Henry's from the real America, but he left out drinking from the skull of your enemy.
Ah, the real America...from the skull, yah. Those were the days. When you could keep your annoying neighbor's severed head in a jar of formaldehyde, eyes open, to show off for your friends and relatives.

Oh crap! Here he comes! Ahhh he's here!
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:16 AM   #39
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Yessss.

Happiness is bending a thread into a completely different direction with no shame or reluctance.

To be completely incoherent but without the need to be. A tool of sorts. The utility of jumping in to change the flow.

So that others might not have to.

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Old 03-20-2019, 08:30 AM   #40
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"Are you from Texas?"

no
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:32 AM   #41
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"he left out drinking from the skull of your enemy"

doin' that is more trouble than it's worth
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:34 AM   #42
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"thank you for allowing me to...consider myself somewhat normal in comparison"

you're welcome
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:37 AM   #43
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doin' that is more trouble than it's worth
Maybe make a mold from the skull and then make a casting of some variety that's a bit easier to keep clean.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:40 AM   #44
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Too derivative, there are food grade oils that would do the trick after the ants are done picking.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:45 AM   #45
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easier to leave the carcass be...end the meat and move on

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