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BigV · 01-06-2010, 07:51 PM

Tomorrow, I will go see it for a second time. First time was 3D version. Second time will be IMAX version. SonofV saw it once before I did so this will be his third tour of duty on Pandora.

The movie is a great piece of filmmaking. Like all movies, it requires a certain suspension of disbelief to enjoy. If this topic/color/method/font presents an obstacle to that suspension, you're enjoyment will be obstructed proportionally. As for the story, as for the character development, as for the realism, please. I expected to be entertained, and it exceeded my expectations. What expectations to do you have when you go to the movies?

Flint · 01-06-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

Ok. I'm glad you explained that again, 'cause that's not how I read this:

Oh, that's an easy fix. Read the full post, not just the second part. Here:

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Originally Posted by Flint

I’m not trying to be non-conformist, I simply don’t think I can enjoy the movie when the act of watching it has been forced to be an analysis of what I am seeing on the screen versus the expectations created by an unrelenting, overly specific media campaign. The entire movie will be an out-of-the-moment experience. A meta-movie, about itself.

That, and when I actually saw a preview of the movie, it looked dumb. The recently-reformed, reluctant hero fights against impossible odds to save the idyllic utopian society from being destroyed by the military-industrial, shoot-em-up bad guys? Wow. My life won’t be complete until I see how that turns out.

See? Two different points. You are correct in noticing that if you chop the post in half, half of it will be missing.

BigV · 01-06-2010, 10:52 PM

"they" force fed you an unrelenting media campaign, Flint? maybe it's time to turn off the tv/radio/MSM for a bit. you pride yourself on your ability to think for yourself. Good. Simple negation is not thinking though. It's just the "no game". Surely, as the father of a couple toddlers you recognize it. Getting back in touch with your inner toddler Flint?

Flint · 01-06-2010, 11:01 PM

I guess I'm not explaining this very well. But anyone else that feels like preaching at me can fuck right off.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-06-2010, 11:13 PM

voice from on high Flint....FLINT.... Thou shall stand thy ground and not be swayed by scifi geeks! /end voice from on high

Flint · 01-06-2010, 11:23 PM

For the record I only saw/heard a handful media pieces/interviews etc. regarding this movie, but considering the extremely little exposure to media outlets I have, I thought this was an outrageous result from such a small sample size. Of note was that everything I heard was harping on the same, very specific message about what was so great about this movie. As I said, it would make watching the movie an exercise in comparing "the message" to what is happening on the screen. Constantly, as every event unfolds in the story I am supposed to be immersed in, I would be thinking "Did they execute that as described? Did they achieve the results they promised they would?" I can't un-do that, I can't un-know the things I have heard. AND, once all of this was irreversibly set in place, I actually saw a preview of the film, and... IT LOOKS DUMB AS HELL AND COMPLETELY UNAPPEALING IN ANY CONCEIVABE WAY. Now you tell me: why in God's name would I think I HAVE TO watch this movie? This is ludicrous and you can all fuck off.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-06-2010, 11:27 PM

Peer pressure.

No, wait, I've got it... a large breasted housemate insists.

TheMercenary · 01-07-2010, 08:20 AM

We are going to see it in 2 hours. In 3D not IMAX. I have reservations, but I have not been to the theater in over 6 months so we will see. I would rather see Invictus.

squirell nutkin · 01-07-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

No, wait, I've got it... a large breasted housemate insists.

Where has the large breasted housemate been lately?

dar512 · 01-07-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Oh, that's an easy fix. Read the full post, not just the second part. Here: See? Two different points. You are correct in noticing that if you chop the post in half, half of it will be missing.

Yabbut it was the second point I had a problem with. Knowing-the-story = movie bad. I don't buy it. But I respect your right to miss a kickass scifi movie.

The world needs curmudgeons too.

Hey! You kids get offa his lawn.

Cloud · 01-07-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

But I respect your right to miss a kickass scifi movie.

nerdiness/It's "SF" -- NEVER "scifi"/nerdiness

Flint · 01-07-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

Knowing-the-story = movie bad.

It wasn't so much that the story looked predictable (that's any movie, pretty much) but that the story looked dumb.

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Originally Posted by dar512

The world needs curmudgeons too.

Hey! You kids get offa his lawn.

When I first announced "I will never see this movie." my wife said I was like a grumpy old man. But after we saw the preview, she agreed with me.

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Originally Posted by Cloud

nerdiness/It's "SF" -- NEVER "scifi"/nerdiness

Don't you mean Syfy???

dar512 · 01-07-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

nerdiness/It's "SF" -- NEVER "scifi"/nerdiness

I'll see your nerdiness and raise you one geekiness. I grew up reading asimov, clarke, and heinlein. I've continued to read scifi and watch scifi throughout my life. In all my conversations with other geeks, sf and scifi have been interchangeable.

syfy is, however, completely hokey.

Cloud · 01-07-2010, 01:32 PM

absolutely not to Flint. and Dar, sorry, but you've been talking to the wrong people. "Scifi" may be semi acceptable now, but it never was in the past to true fans. I believe we've talked about this before.

Flint · 01-07-2010, 01:38 PM

We may as well use the original term, scientifiction.

01-06-2010, 07:51 PM	#91
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 18,187	Tomorrow, I will go see it for a second time. First time was 3D version. Second time will be IMAX version. SonofV saw it once before I did so this will be his third tour of duty on Pandora. The movie is a great piece of filmmaking. Like all movies, it requires a certain suspension of disbelief to enjoy. If this topic/color/method/font presents an obstacle to that suspension, you're enjoyment will be obstructed proportionally. As for the story, as for the character development, as for the realism, please. I expected to be entertained, and it exceeded my expectations. What expectations to do you have when you go to the movies? __________________ Remember: Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. -- Marcus Aurelius, philosopher and writer (121-180)

01-06-2010, 10:52 PM	#93
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 18,187	"they" force fed you an unrelenting media campaign, Flint? maybe it's time to turn off the tv/radio/MSM for a bit. you pride yourself on your ability to think for yourself. Good. Simple negation is not thinking though. It's just the "no game". Surely, as the father of a couple toddlers you recognize it. Getting back in touch with your inner toddler Flint? __________________ Remember: Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. -- Marcus Aurelius, philosopher and writer (121-180)

01-06-2010, 11:01 PM	#94
Flint _______ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 11,183	I guess I'm not explaining this very well. But anyone else that feels like preaching at me can fuck right off. __________________ ************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-06-2010, 11:13 PM	#95
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 41,807	voice from on high Flint....FLINT.... Thou shall stand thy ground and not be swayed by scifi geeks! /end voice from on high __________________ Everything is interesting... look closer.

01-06-2010, 11:23 PM	#96
Flint _______ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 11,183	For the record I only saw/heard a handful media pieces/interviews etc. regarding this movie, but considering the extremely little exposure to media outlets I have, I thought this was an outrageous result from such a small sample size. Of note was that everything I heard was harping on the same, very specific message about what was so great about this movie. As I said, it would make watching the movie an exercise in comparing "the message" to what is happening on the screen. Constantly, as every event unfolds in the story I am supposed to be immersed in, I would be thinking "Did they execute that as described? Did they achieve the results they promised they would?" I can't un-do that, I can't un-know the things I have heard. AND, once all of this was irreversibly set in place, I actually saw a preview of the film, and... IT LOOKS DUMB AS HELL AND COMPLETELY UNAPPEALING IN ANY CONCEIVABE WAY. Now you tell me: why in God's name would I think I HAVE TO watch this movie? This is ludicrous and you can all fuck off. __________________ ************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-06-2010, 11:27 PM	#97
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 41,807	Peer pressure. No, wait, I've got it... a large breasted housemate insists. __________________ Everything is interesting... look closer.

01-07-2010, 08:20 AM	#98
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	We are going to see it in 2 hours. In 3D not IMAX. I have reservations, but I have not been to the theater in over 6 months so we will see. I would rather see Invictus. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-07-2010, 01:32 PM	#104
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	absolutely not to Flint. and Dar, sorry, but you've been talking to the wrong people. "Scifi" may be semi acceptable now, but it never was in the past to true fans. I believe we've talked about this before. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

01-07-2010, 01:38 PM	#105
Flint _______ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 11,183	We may as well use the original term, scientifiction. __________________ ************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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