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Old 01-25-2012, 08:03 AM   #61
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:39 AM   #62
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Well then just get a friend with a dog to live next to you! Or something!
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:39 AM   #63
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But srsly, so what if multiple Google products share what they know about you? You do realize that if you have a club card at your local supermarket, they know every single thing you've ever bought there.

But what harm has it done to you? None. Never met anyone who had anything bad happen to them as the result of having a club card. For years people claimed that the insurance companies were going to figure out who was buying condoms and shit like that -- well guess what, 15 years on, none of that slippery slope stuff seems to have happened. They used the data just like they said they were going to.

OMG they are going to TARGET you with ads. OMG you know what that means? You'll see ads for things you might actually want, while using Google's excellent services for free! Yup, sucks to be you!
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:46 AM   #64
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And if you are running Firefox, (and probably other browsers that I don't know too well) you can go into private browsing mode when you want to do searches for hemorrhoid cream or whatever. They can still see that someone at your IP address is doing those searches for spots to bury dead hobos, but they aren't linking them to your account because you won't be signed in. Then when you want to use your cookies again so you don't have to remember your Cellar password, you just exit private browsing mode. In Firefox it's: tools> start private browsing and then to stop, it's tools> stop private browsing. Or just use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Shift+P.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:49 AM   #65
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But srsly, so what if multiple Google products share what they know about you? You do realize that if you have a club card at your local supermarket, they know every single thing you've ever bought there.

But what harm has it done to you? None. Never met anyone who had anything bad happen to them as the result of having a club card. For years people claimed that the insurance companies were going to figure out who was buying condoms and shit like that -- well guess what, 15 years on, none of that slippery slope stuff seems to have happened. They used the data just like they said they were going to.

OMG they are going to TARGET you with ads. OMG you know what that means? You'll see ads for things you might actually want, while using Google's excellent services for free! Yup, sucks to be you!
That's pretty much the way I feel about it.


Maybe with a bit less sarcasm.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:52 AM   #66
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(was that over the top? i feel like i can't control my sarcasm knob these days)
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:59 AM   #67
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But I'm afraid of dogs!
SamIam has some trained attack kitties you might be able to borrow.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:07 AM   #68
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Thanks UT. Message received.
I may need a reminder though.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:10 AM   #69
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(was that over the top? i feel like i can't control my sarcasm knob these days)
Not really. Just joshin' ya'.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:11 AM   #70
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(was that over the top? i feel like i can't control my sarcasm knob these days)
...maybe eat some more protein.

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Old 01-25-2012, 09:18 AM   #71
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I'm really getting the urge to cut all electronic ties... I'll just surf Lemann's for the necessary equipment.. DOH!
Lehmann's is a gateway drug pusher. Before you know it you'll be chipping flint and pounding sinew. Don't say I didn't warn you.

BTW, Lehmann's is developing a non- electric version of the internet.

@UT, you're right it does suck to be me, but that has nothing to do with google.
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:02 PM   #72
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<snip>But what harm has it done to you? None.<snip>
OMG they are going to TARGET you with ads. OMG you know what that means?
You'll see ads for things you might actually want,
while using Google's excellent services for free!
Yup, sucks to be you!
Having been raised in the era when "1984" was a best-seller, I strongly doubt
Google's new business plan would be restricted to customized ads.
Last May, Facebook and Google were contemplating purchase of Skype,
until it was bought for $8.5B by MicroSoft.
Google+ was initiated with the User's real name.

The US Supreme Court denied law enforcement to attach GPS to someone's car
without a search warrant. But why will LE need a search warrant
when they can just do a FaceBook-, Google-, or Bing- search to follow an individual's activities.

Silly, I know, but ... how do you, or anyone, know there has been or will be no harm done.
In particular, I worry that employers (businesses) will exploit this in whatever way they see fit.

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Google’s Broken Promise: The End of "Don’t Be Evil"

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This has been long coming. Google's privacy policies have been shifting
towards sharing data across services, and away from data compartmentalization
for some time. It's been consistently de-anonymizing you, initially requiring real names
with Plus, for example, and then tying your Plus account to your Gmail account.

But this is an entirely new level of sharing. And given all of the negative feedback
that it had with Google+ privacy issues, it's especially troubling
that it would take actions that further erode users' privacy.
<snip>
What this means for you is that data from the things you search for,
the emails you send, the places you look up on Google Maps,
the videos you watch in YouTube,
the discussions you have on Google+ will all be collected in one place.

It seems like it will particularly affect Android users,
whose real-time location (if they are Latitude users),
Google Wallet data and much more will be up for grabs.
And if you have signed up for Google+, odds are the company even knows your real name,
as it still places hurdles in front of using a pseudonym (although it
no longer explicitly requires users to go by their real names).<snip>

So why are we calling this evil?
Because Google changed the rules that it defined itself.

Google built its reputation, and its multi-billion dollar business, on the promise
of its "don't be evil" philosophy. That's been largely interpreted as meaning
that Google will always put its users first, an interpretation that Google
has cultivated and encouraged. Google has built a very lucrative company
on the reputation of user respect. It has made billions of dollars in that effort
to get us all under its feel-good tent. And now it's pulling the stakes out, collapsing it.

It gives you a few weeks to pull your data out, using its data-liberation service,
but if you want to use Google services, you have to agree to these rules.
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:48 PM   #73
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Then there is Google's YouTube connection...

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Old 01-25-2012, 01:36 PM   #74
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I agree with Lamplighter on this.
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:47 PM   #75
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Anyone know how the facial recognition software accomodates for youth features? Is there an age past which they can be sure your face isn't growing? I thought, for example, that men's ears and noses could continue growing to a certain degree their whole lives.
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