Perverting science for politics - Page 5

Troubleshooter · 06-29-2004, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
That my friend, is wishful thinking.

It's not surprising as much as disapointing.

wolf · 06-29-2004, 09:21 PM

Their point, I believe, is that they take themselves seriously.

Probably all too seriously.

Troubleshooter · 06-30-2004, 08:24 AM

A friend and I started a little discussion about that site and one of the points that came out was what about the parts that were lifted from other religions? Doesn't that make them just as valid, and true, as christianity?

Happy Monkey · 04-26-2005, 01:27 PM

One major problem with the Bush administration is their habit of appointing lobbyists to positions of authority. That's bad enough, but the lobbyists they appoint are the lobbyists for the industry/group that the position is supposed to regulate. Here's the latest example.

A lobbyist for "Safari Club International" in charge of the Fish and Wildlife Service.

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Hogan's job before coming to work at FWS was as chief lobbyist for Safari Club International. The club has set hunting awards for its members like the Africa Big Five, in which a member shoots a leopard, elephant, lion, rhino and buffalo. Then there's the American Twenty Nine or Big Cats of the World.
For a member to get all 29 awards, he would have to kill at least 322 different animals.

mrnoodle · 04-26-2005, 02:05 PM

You're right. Don't appoint someone who has a background in wildlife management, particularly hunting (the primary wildlife management tool nationwide). He wouldn't know nearly as much about the topic as, say, someone with a background in English Lit.

Or is it the fact that he kills animals? In that case, a PETA member would be appropriate. Their leader is on record as saying that in a perfect world, they would be able to breed out the carnivorous tendencies of animals such as wolves and mountain lions so that all creatures could live in harmony.

Maybe it should be someone with no opinion whatsoever in regard to hunting. They could approach wildlife management with a fresh eye. ("What's that, some kind of cow?" "No, sir, that's a pronghorn" "Do they bite?" "Not usually, sir.")

I need to go eat some meat. bbl.

lookout123 · 04-26-2005, 02:06 PM

mrnoodle. you actually made me chuckle with that one.

Happy Monkey · 06-09-2005, 05:52 AM

"We don't put Phil Cooney on the record," Ms. St. Martin said. "He's not a cleared spokesman."

glatt · 06-09-2005, 08:02 AM

That's a good article. Thanks for the link.

BigV · 06-09-2005, 09:04 AM

Pure FUD. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Happy Monkey · 06-09-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

Pure FUD. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

The guy was giving the F to government scientists, and creating UD for the administration to use.

tw · 06-10-2005, 12:31 AM

Appreciate who Philip A. Cooney is. He is a lawyer. He has no science education. His degree is in economics. He is therefore qualified to rewrite science papers for the George Jr administration. No wonder First Energy (that is also run by a lawyer and created the East Coast blackout) could have a Three Mile Island problem in Davis Bessie, arrange a $450,000 fund raiser for Bush Cheney, and not shutdown as two nuclear reactors were force to (for human safety reasons). Oh. And when they finally did shutdown for refueling, there was this hole through 6 inches of carbon steel. Had the Three Mile Island problem occurred, there was no containment vessel to prevent 60 pounds per square inch of exploding radioactive gas from visiting Toledo.

Ahh but these are numbers and science. The George Jr administration knows better. They have a lawyer. Money would have fixed Toledo. With God and lawyers, clearly the administration cannot be wrong. No wonder George Jr need not even read his PDBs.

So which science will be canceled this month so that a man can scratch the moon looking for water? Clearly global warming cannot be averted. (It says so in the bible?) This from the same man who repeatedly drilled for oil and never found any - but got rich anyway. Where is the morality in the new science - and intelligent design?

Ibram · 04-27-2006, 12:32 AM

Someone needs to take the Warren Zevon off of Bush's playlist, it's giving him ideas...

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Originally Posted by Warren Zevon

Lawyers, guns and money... will get me out of this.

Though, slightly off topic... Am I the only one who thinks tw spends all his free time on far-left news sites and websites trying to find more news to post here in the cellar to make fun of the mental midget george jr with?

glatt · 04-27-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

Though, slightly off topic... Am I the only one who thinks tw spends all his free time on far-left news sites and websites trying to find more news to post here in the cellar to make fun of the mental midget george jr with?

I doubt it. The stuff he gathers comes from mainstream sources.

warch · 06-09-2005, 05:17 PM

Glad you refreshed this sad but true thread. How much longer is this fucking administration?

Elspode · 06-09-2005, 05:20 PM

If ever you had a single doubt about what this administrations sole purpose for existence was, this should clear it up.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

06-29-2004, 09:21 PM	#2
wolf The other bright meat Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 17,854	Their point, I believe, is that they take themselves seriously. Probably all too seriously. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-30-2004, 08:24 AM	#3
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	A friend and I started a little discussion about that site and one of the points that came out was what about the parts that were lifted from other religions? Doesn't that make them just as valid, and true, as christianity? __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

04-26-2005, 02:05 PM	#5
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,652	You're right. Don't appoint someone who has a background in wildlife management, particularly hunting (the primary wildlife management tool nationwide). He wouldn't know nearly as much about the topic as, say, someone with a background in English Lit. Or is it the fact that he kills animals? In that case, a PETA member would be appropriate. Their leader is on record as saying that in a perfect world, they would be able to breed out the carnivorous tendencies of animals such as wolves and mountain lions so that all creatures could live in harmony. Maybe it should be someone with no opinion whatsoever in regard to hunting. They could approach wildlife management with a fresh eye. ("What's that, some kind of cow?" "No, sir, that's a pronghorn" "Do they bite?" "Not usually, sir.") I need to go eat some meat. bbl. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

04-26-2005, 02:06 PM	#6
lookout123 prefers his Cracker Babies alive and well Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 9,895	mrnoodle. you actually made me chuckle with that one. __________________ Magister Mundi sum!

06-09-2005, 05:52 AM	#7
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 9,354	"We don't put Phil Cooney on the record," Ms. St. Martin said. "He's not a cleared spokesman." __________________ _________________ \|...............\| That's right! I cut my hand off!!! What do you \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| say to THAT, you bubble-talking HYPOCRITE?!? \|_______________\| [homepage][pics]

06-09-2005, 08:02 AM	#8
glatt waiting like a stalking Butler Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 11,820	That's a good article. Thanks for the link.

06-09-2005, 09:04 AM	#9
BigV Polymath Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 10,510	Pure FUD. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. __________________ Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. -- Marcus Aurelius, philosopher and writer (121-180)

06-10-2005, 12:31 AM	#11
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 7,206	Appreciate who Philip A. Cooney is. He is a lawyer. He has no science education. His degree is in economics. He is therefore qualified to rewrite science papers for the George Jr administration. No wonder First Energy (that is also run by a lawyer and created the East Coast blackout) could have a Three Mile Island problem in Davis Bessie, arrange a $450,000 fund raiser for Bush Cheney, and not shutdown as two nuclear reactors were force to (for human safety reasons). Oh. And when they finally did shutdown for refueling, there was this hole through 6 inches of carbon steel. Had the Three Mile Island problem occurred, there was no containment vessel to prevent 60 pounds per square inch of exploding radioactive gas from visiting Toledo. Ahh but these are numbers and science. The George Jr administration knows better. They have a lawyer. Money would have fixed Toledo. With God and lawyers, clearly the administration cannot be wrong. No wonder George Jr need not even read his PDBs. So which science will be canceled this month so that a man can scratch the moon looking for water? Clearly global warming cannot be averted. (It says so in the bible?) This from the same man who repeatedly drilled for oil and never found any - but got rich anyway. Where is the morality in the new science - and intelligent design?

06-09-2005, 05:17 PM	#14
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,759	Glad you refreshed this sad but true thread. How much longer is this fucking administration?

06-09-2005, 05:20 PM	#15
Elspode Serve ice cold, add salt to taste Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,172	If ever you had a single doubt about what this administrations sole purpose for existence was, this should clear it up. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ __________________ Peas and Logic, Patrick "He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it." Douglas Adams

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