5/23/2006: Barbaro's leg repair
They don't necessarily shoot horses any longer. Barbaro won the Derby by as much of a lead as anyone could remember. He might have won the Triple Crown. But he totally shattered his leg in the Preakness on Saturday, and wound up in six hours of surgery at U Penn's veterinary hospital.
Barbaro got
better treatment out of Penn than I did, but maybe his problem was worse - initially he was given a 50-50 chance of making it through. This morning they say he's doing much better and so they are much more optimistic. He's actually putting the weight of a horse on that leg - on that massive stitching of pins.
The "before".
After surgery he spent some time in a pool before going back to a stall.
A lot of people who seem to know, say that Barbaro's owners would have done the extensive surgery for any of their horses. But the payout on these odds is much higher - if he makes it to Stallionhood, Barbaro will fetch some high fees as a stud.
I've lurked until now, but this whole incident has me fired up.
Take a good look at a horse race winner. For every one you see wearing roses, there's dozens more lame or dead from being pushed too hard too early. The growth plates in horses legs don't close until around 2+ years of age. Everybody's looking at the replays and don't see why the leg shattered. Duh....could it be too much stress on a growing bone?
And, not to be too much of a cynic, but while they're "healing" this stud's leg, I'm sure they'll be collecting semen as often as possible to sell. At a hundred grand or more a pop (pun intended?), I'm sure they'll be able to pay the vet bill.
I wish someone could collect and sell my se...
oh, sorry.:redface:
They may sell his sperm but if they do they can't register the foal for racing. TBs have to have clear bloodlines for registration for racing so the stallion has to actually mate the mare.
Is that a hockey helmet on the head of one of the vets?
I guess it's insurance against being kicked by an improperly anaesthetized horse?
rough job...
Maybe he needs the helmet because he's about to collect some sperm and the horse will get rowdy.
..i bet Barbaro can make a mean 'Map of Hawaii' on that vet
They say he's flirting with the mares. That's a good sign :)
Barbaro got better treatment out of Penn than I did,
He's worth more, Horses at this level are cared for better than all but the most wealthy of humans.
He's worth more...
:headshake
uh uh, not more than OUR Toadie!!!
This looks like what would happen if I tried to build a deck.
i think its time we put UT out to stud.
Bri? you up for it?
Hey hey, I'm brokered out to another filly
"hit me ya five card stud"
They say he's flirting with the mares. That's a good sign :)
Oh come on! About 20 years ago I got T-Boned on my motorcycle by a fully loaded Mack truck. Broke all my ribs, both knees, one shoulder and 2 vertabra... walk with a noticable limp... but hell, at least I walk.
And MOST of the brain still works. LOL
Spent better than 1/2 a year in the hospital.
And even in a full body cast and traction, I *STILL* flirted with the nurses :D
He might be a horse, but he's still a guy... if a guy were being strapped into an electric chair, and one of the guards was a woman, he'd flirt with her. ;)
Acroyear
In human terms, he's already rich & famous and if what he's got to look forward to doesn't give him the "will to live",........well...ALPO. :D
Welcome to the Cellar, queenb. You make a good point, of course, but considering what we do to future ballet dancers and gymnasts, it all seems natural.
..i bet Barbaro can make a mean 'Map of Hawaii' on that vet
Is that the pearl necklace of the new millenium? Somehow I can't hear zz top in my minds ear singing that one...
And, not to be too much of a cynic, but while they're "healing" this stud's leg, I'm sure they'll be collecting semen as often as possible to sell. At a hundred grand or more a pop (pun intended?), I'm sure they'll be able to pay the vet bill.
In the world of horse racing, artificial insemination is illegal. The only way Barbaro can produce any money-making offspring, is the old fashioned way.
So there is no selling of his sperm.
And before you go feeling bad for these horses, you must understand that their genetics aren't like normal horse genetics. They come from long lines of bred racing horses. Their bodies are more than able to handle the stress put upon them. Plus the pampering and care they receive. They are superstars as far as they are concerned. And when they retire, they will live a long and happy life of eating and fornication. $25 million is invested in this horse. They owners risk nothing when it comes to this horses well being.
(I registered just to tell you, you were wrong.. btw. Education before cynicism is crucial.)
Hello UltraViolence, welcome to the Cellar. :D
Stick around and that registration won't be wasted, since you told us in Post #18 (in this thread) what we already knew in post #4.
He might be a horse, but he's still a guy... if a guy were being strapped into an electric chair, and one of the guards was a woman, he'd flirt with her. ;)
"Hey baby, wanna come over here and ride the lightnin' rod?"
It doesn't look good for the big guy.
Barbaro Takes a Bad Turn
Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro suffered another significant setback over the weekend, and his fight for survival may have reached a critical point. After Barbaro developed a deep abscess in his right hind foot, surgery was performed Saturday to insert two steel pins in a bone, one that was shattered but now healthy, to eliminate all weight bearing on the ailing foot.
Apparently, there are problems in both rear legs now, and the surgery can have the side-effect of worsening conditions in the front legs.
Just this morning I heard an interview with his Vet. He said that Barbaro was still eating and bright-eyed, and did not look like a horse in pain or ready to give up.
Just this morning I heard an interview with his Vet. He said that Barbaro was still eating and bright-eyed, and did not look like a horse in pain or ready to give up.
I heard the same interview. The "bright-eyed" comment stuck with me. The vet was basically saying that even though the horse was going through all this crap, it was in good spirits.
I wonder if they get an insurance payout now that he's dead?
Was Barbaro a stallion, gelding or mare? I honestly don't know, but, if a stallion, I assume he was thoroughly milked prior to having been put down...
Was Barbaro a stallion, gelding or mare? I honestly don't know, but, if a stallion, I assume he was thoroughly milked prior to having been put down...
Stallion. The reason for the heroic efforts, I think, was his stud value. Almost as valuable as yours, 'Spode.
Barbaro was a colt. Only 4 years old. :( A baby.
They were pretty sure he would never be able to be put to stud as he didn't have much of a chance to put all his weight on his back legs. Artificial insemination is against horse racing rules.
It's as sad as when they had to euthanize
Ruffian after her match race with Foolish Pleasure.
Aww... poor guy.
My daughter heard the news on KYW in the car today and she's very sad. He was her pick in the Derby and Preakness last year.... she felt a connection.
I commend the owners and vets for trying so hard, and for knowing when enough was enough, it must have been a really hard decision.
Great link, MilkFish! Ruffian is my all-time fave TB. Her courage was unequalled and her greatness never fully realized...
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Despite the possible profit in stud fees, I was very surprised they didn't euthenize Barbaro on the track. I remember Ruffian, too. It's a shame.
I think they would have needed 20 years of stud fees to recoup what they would have received from insurance with euthanasia on the track. Far more profitable to have euthanized him, but they felt he had given so much to them, they should try to give back to him and give him a chance to live.
Regardless, his case has given new hope to other leg/hoof injuries and inspirational means of treatment.
What's sad is the continual press for faster horses. This means the breeding selects for thinner legs and smaller bones. The smaller and stiffer,(read brittle), the bones the faster the horse. And... the more often their legs will snap like a dry saltine. We will see this more and more often. It's what happens when we start selective breeding for one trait. Rather like Irish Setters that were bred for that classy look until they were utterly brainless.
Let me try to show this.
A modern cutting horse that has to be agile (turn a lot and quickly).
Poor Barbaro a thorobred bred for speed only. Notice the thin legs.
[cue intense piano playing]
Once again, The Philly Curse has struck!!!
The Eagles.....
The Phillies.....
the Flyers......
and now Barbaro
Godspeed
So sad. They didn't give him time to answer all the cards and letters wishing him well.
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...Regardless, his case has given new hope to other leg/hoof injuries and inspirational means of treatment.
The Penn Vet School has received $$$millions in the name of Barbaro. Hopefully it will also help develop new treatments/cures.:comfort:
What's sad is the continual press for faster horses. This means the breeding selects for thinner legs and smaller bones. The smaller and stiffer,(read brittle), the bones the faster the horse. And... the more often their legs will snap like a dry saltine. We will see this more and more often. It's what happens when we start selective breeding for one trait.
Isn't the thoroughbred breeding stock a relatively small and closed pool? They need new blood but I'm sure there are rules against it. The horses are more fragile and nominally faster. Look at how much time man has taken off the mile in the last hundred years and then look at the horse. I wonder if putting some standardbred into the pool wouldn't improve things?
Put some Clydesdale in for more fun. The entertainment is not in how fast they run, it's in how closely they're matched. :D
Oh, sure, you say you're just mixing in a little Clydesdale, but someone gets carried away and
this is what we'll get:[ATTACH]11734[/ATTACH]
What's your point, Luddite? :lol:
They cleverly got around the obvious wing-size-to-weight issues by adding rocket nostrils.
He's sneezing from the [FONT="Garamond"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Magic Dust[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT].;)