Why are 'trolls' so successful on the Cellar?

Aliantha • Nov 25, 2009 6:54 pm
Things have been pretty quiet around here lately, and then along comes a little troll doll and everyone's up in arms and posting like mad. This isn't the first time it's happened of course, so I'm just wondering why, when we all know just to ignore trolls (and speaking of which, I think the word is over used and mis-used a fair bit) do people continue to engage in conflict with them? Is it for the love of the sport or what?
Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 6:57 pm
coz, actually, it's rather fun.

I was just sitting here thinking how I've got six weeks off for the break and i need a really good diversion. It's cathartic for a lot of us to throw egg on a really ignorant boob. (yes, darling emma, that's a female body part, too! My, you're growing up!)

She is going to fall, though. That'll be fun to watch.

now, go ahead and call me mean. I've earned it. I mean the right to :yawn: when I'm inevitably called so by the more sainted among us. :D
Aliantha • Nov 25, 2009 7:00 pm
I wasn't thinking of calling you mean. I actually don't think what you said was mean. I was just wondering about it really. We've all been sucked in by them to some extent at different times. I'm just trying to put something else in home base - which is kind of freaky because I think you had the same thought.
Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 7:00 pm
;)
DanaC • Nov 25, 2009 7:01 pm
She gets what she wants: attention, a chance to be feisty, some upset old folk and a Banned badge. We get a mildly amusing diversion from our ruminations, which then turns into an irritant. From time to time the 'troll' turns out to be quite nice and things settle down accordingly.
Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 7:02 pm
name one troll who turned out to be quite nice. No googling.

*shakes fist at emma* Get off my lawn!!!
lumberjim • Nov 25, 2009 7:05 pm
starts with an F
DanaC • Nov 25, 2009 7:06 pm
Oh Draxxie was ok. I know he was a drama queen, but he was kind of fun too. .. Can't think of any more off the top of my head...the point still stands :P
Aliantha • Nov 25, 2009 7:06 pm
Well some people have called me a troll and I've turned out to be quite nice. :)
Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 7:06 pm
*dawns* L I N T !!!!
DanaC • Nov 25, 2009 7:07 pm
Oh! *rolls eyes*
Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 7:07 pm
Aliantha;612178 wrote:
Well some people have called me a troll and I've turned out to be quite nice. :)


I don't recall you ever displaying any troll-like attributes...at all.
Aliantha • Nov 25, 2009 7:08 pm
Yeah...I always thought that was the one thing I definitely wasn't. Hence my suggestion that the term is mis-used at times. ;)
Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 7:10 pm
yeah, I suppose it does get mis-used.

Not this time, though.
DanaC • Nov 25, 2009 7:10 pm
I still think Urbane might be liberal hippy in disguise :P
Cloud • Nov 25, 2009 8:09 pm
not my idea of fun at all, and my participation will be less, not more, until resolved
Starring_Emma • Nov 25, 2009 8:24 pm
Aliantha;612156 wrote:
Things have been pretty quiet around here lately, and then along comes a little troll doll and everyone's up in arms and posting like mad. This isn't the first time it's happened of course, so I'm just wondering why, when we all know just to ignore trolls (and speaking of which, I think the word is over used and mis-used a fair bit) do people continue to engage in conflict with them? Is it for the love of the sport or what?


Are you talking about Radar?
Starring_Emma • Nov 25, 2009 8:26 pm
Brianna;612160 wrote:
coz, actually, it's rather fun.

I was just sitting here thinking how I've got six weeks off for the break and i need a really good diversion. It's cathartic for a lot of us to throw egg on a really ignorant boob. (yes, darling emma, that's a female body part, too! My, you're growing up!)

She is going to fall, though. That'll be fun to watch.

now, go ahead and call me mean. I've earned it. I mean the right to :yawn: when I'm inevitably called so by the more sainted among us. :D


I don't think you're mean...
I like you the best!
Starring_Emma • Nov 25, 2009 8:29 pm
DanaC;612165 wrote:
She gets what she wants: attention,


Radar is a "she"?
Starring_Emma • Nov 25, 2009 8:32 pm
Brianna;612169 wrote:
name one troll who turned out to be quite nice. No googling.

*shakes fist at emma* Get off my lawn!!!


I'm quite nice... but then I've never been accused of being a troll.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 26, 2009 2:57 am
Aliantha;612178 wrote:
Well some people have called me a troll and I've turned out to be quite nice. :)


I imagine Radar will eventually get around to calling me a troll among all the rest of his attempts to win a pissing contest standing at the bottom of a well -- so far he's definitely working on calling me everything but a precious child of God. And look how I turn out.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 26, 2009 3:03 am
DanaC;612193 wrote:
I still think Urbane might be liberal hippy in disguise :P


But then you do think I'm pulling the connection between gun control and genocide out of my arse. That's not where I'm drawing it from, m'dear.
john bainz • Nov 26, 2009 3:47 am
Firstly I don't have a problem with you, and don't care what the other guys say cause you haven't given me a reason to lash out at you or whatever.

I just want to know... (And i've asked this question before)

Why do you keep replying to your own replies?
:eyebrow:
Sundae • Nov 26, 2009 6:10 am
In answer to the OP, I think it's because we're basically a bunch of smart-arses.
When someone is so obviously taunting us, we simply can't resist the urge to say something back.

We know the mature thing to do is stay silent, but there are just too many things that pop into our heads and via our fingers onto the internet.
But if some of us weren't like that, the Cellar wouldn't be what it is.

Kudos to those that listen to the mature voice of course.
The silent majority.
Personally I like a bit of drama. And at least when it's from an outsider it means there's no long lasting consequences.
She'll run around showing her knickers for a while, we'll shout and stomp and then when it goes quiet we relax again.

It's just a shame she joined too late for secret santa. I would totally trust her to participate.
jujuwwhite • Nov 26, 2009 6:39 am
I'm not a troll but I own a troll doll. Does that count for anything?
Starring_Emma • Nov 26, 2009 11:09 am
john bainz;612507 wrote:

Why do you keep replying to your own replies?
:eyebrow:


Who do you keep asking this question to?
Flint • Nov 26, 2009 1:36 pm
Trolls are so successful because they are better and smarter than you. Occam's Razor.
SamIam • Nov 26, 2009 1:41 pm
UG is a precocious child of dog. :rolleyes:
SteveDallas • Nov 26, 2009 3:05 pm
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Pico and ME • Nov 26, 2009 3:35 pm
Lol. That was me during the 2004 election.
monkeytaco • Nov 26, 2009 3:45 pm
Pico and ME;612675 wrote:
Lol. That was me during the 2004 election.


I loved that election!

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DanaC • Nov 26, 2009 3:47 pm
And she's back :P
Trilby • Nov 26, 2009 3:48 pm
yup.
SamIam • Nov 26, 2009 3:50 pm
Didn't take long, did it?
monkeytaco • Nov 26, 2009 3:52 pm
We should impeach Obama and bring back Bush!
DanaC • Nov 26, 2009 3:53 pm
SamIam;612687 wrote:
Didn't take long, did it?


*chuckles*
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 26, 2009 6:39 pm
She created the sock puppet before she was banned.
capnhowdy • Nov 26, 2009 8:25 pm
gotta love our mods
Tulip • Nov 27, 2009 2:41 am
SteveDallas;612663 wrote:
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I love that cartoon! I've been told to get to bed before. :D
Trilby • Nov 27, 2009 8:48 am
Not 'wrong' Tulip. Intolerably irritating. And spewed hate speech. That enough for you?

Oh, sorry. you're just commenting on the cartoon. my bad! I thought you were commenting on the innocence of Emma.

apologies!
Radar • Nov 27, 2009 3:20 pm
SteveDallas' cartoon hits pretty close to home for me. My wife and I have that conversation every night.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 27, 2009 11:28 pm
SamIam;612643 wrote:
UG is a precocious child of dog. :rolleyes:


rrrRUFF!:p
toranokaze • Dec 2, 2009 9:15 pm
[youtube]ZP7MyQbYPUA[/youtube]
skysidhe • Dec 12, 2009 9:31 pm
The cellar doesn't know successful troll-ism.

They get squashed like a bug.:footpyth:
Qice • Dec 15, 2009 1:11 pm
On the topic of trolls and trolling -
I am fairly new to online communities - but I wonder...
what's the reasoning behind being a troll - it does seem to be a personal choice -if some one is just naive that seems to come across in their posts - but in cases of a true troll... do you think it's simply a case of some freudian "my mother didn't love me enough to breastfeed me" so the whole damn online world will pay for it?
Or do trolls just get off on being assholes and getting sand kicked in their faces?

It's nice to know that at the Cellar, trolls don't last.
Troll • Dec 15, 2009 2:15 pm
Hi, I'm new! this looks like a nice bunch of .....


oh.....
classicman • Dec 15, 2009 3:18 pm
Qice;617729 wrote:
trolls just get off on being assholes and getting sand kicked in their faces


you answered your own question.
DanaC • Dec 15, 2009 5:06 pm
To answer Qice: forcing a reaction (e.g. banning) is exerting a kind of power.
Sundae • Dec 15, 2009 5:17 pm
Troll;617746 wrote:
Hi, I'm new! this looks like a nice bunch of .....

Hiya Troll [waves!]
Nip on over to the introduction post and tell us a bit about yourself.

Wait. You look familiar.
Did I....? I mean that time, in Macklesfield...?
Qice • Dec 15, 2009 5:18 pm
DanaC;617794 wrote:
To answer Qice: forcing a reaction (e.g. banning) is exerting a kind of power.


Yes, I can see that point... but I still don't get it -
guess I just don't understand the desire to be driven out of town on a rail...:headshake
DanaC • Dec 15, 2009 5:20 pm
*smiles* yah. But I recall taking rather a pride, when i was 17 in the fact that I'd been barred from several cafes and pubs :P

Being 'naughty' or 'bad' has a certain cache...especially for the young.
SteveDallas • Dec 15, 2009 6:12 pm
DanaC;617799 wrote:
I recall taking rather a pride, when i was 17 in the fact that I'd been barred from several cafes and pubs :P

And now yer fuckin' respectable. Bloody shame, that.
Urbane Guerrilla • Dec 15, 2009 9:44 pm
They are the sort who get off on being assholes when the consequences of assholity are small. It's a nerdy way of being a bully. If I'm not mistaken, it is mainly practiced by adolescents. (They probably need jobs to occupy their minds.)

Well, now we're up to a coupla Trolls -- the unadorned one (hello!) and Grendel T. etcetera.

A cache is supplies hidden away and sounds like "cash." Just one more letter gives that certain cachet which sounds like how US Army spokesmen kept mispronouncing the other word in the first year of OIF. I don't even think they're related. I kept shaking my head.

Did I have an unfair advantage on the spokesmen, growing up near a river in Colorado named Cache la Poudre? There are French-language placenames all over the northern half of the American West.
capnhowdy • Dec 15, 2009 9:57 pm
Hell.... I'm a troll and nobody ever even noticed. You insensitive bastards!
Urbane Guerrilla • Dec 15, 2009 10:19 pm
Well, put your little felt loincloth back on and comb your hair up straight, then.

Trolls
Troll • Dec 15, 2009 11:45 pm
Sundae Girl;617797 wrote:
Hiya Troll [waves!]
Nip on over to the introduction post and tell us a bit about yourself.

Wait. You look familiar.
Did I....? I mean that time, in Macklesfield...?


you smurfed me. smurf yeah!



it was smurftastic, too. smurftacular.
DanaC • Dec 16, 2009 4:14 am
You're quite right; I meant cachet lol.
wolf • Dec 16, 2009 12:10 pm
We have a particularly strong equilibrium here, so the effect appears greater when it is upset.
Troll • Dec 17, 2009 1:06 pm
thank you for finally unmoderating my posts, oh great and powerful volpe.
Shawnee123 • Dec 17, 2009 1:09 pm
Trolls? OMG a TROLL?

That is the funniest fucking thing I have EVER seen. Your user name is TROLL but you're not really a troll? OMG OMG OMG.
A TROLL poster. :lol2:

/sarcasm
Troll • Dec 17, 2009 1:11 pm
do i detect a hint of sarcasm?
Shawnee123 • Dec 17, 2009 1:12 pm
Oh GAWD no. You are the funniest person EVAH!

Seriously, how did you come up with the concept? Did you have help? Was there brainstorming? A committee? Because, wow!
Troll • Dec 17, 2009 1:13 pm
well, alright then.


wanna fool around?
Shawnee123 • Dec 17, 2009 1:14 pm
No, thanks. I can't keep up with demand as it is.
DanaC • Dec 17, 2009 2:18 pm
Shawnee123;618335 wrote:
No, thanks. I can't keep up with demand as it is.



Sorry, Shaw, could you repeat that, your voice is muffled by that mouthful of cock :P
Shawnee123 • Dec 17, 2009 2:20 pm
mwaamaaamawahaahmwaa?
lumberjim • Dec 17, 2009 2:25 pm
wow...thanks for the visual
classicman • Dec 17, 2009 3:16 pm
What visual? Pics or it never happened . . .

I kid, I kid
SteveDallas • Dec 17, 2009 4:44 pm
Shawnee123;618325 wrote:
Trolls? OMG a TROLL?

That is the funniest fucking thing I have EVER seen. Your user name is TROLL but you're not really a troll? OMG OMG OMG.
A TROLL poster. :lol2:

/sarcasm

Those of us of a certain age may be reminded of the Troll Book Club.
TheMercenary • Dec 17, 2009 6:17 pm
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Troll • Dec 18, 2009 8:33 pm
Ok here I am.The real Troll of teh netz has arrived!

Now, lets discuss Hitler and Abortion in the same thread. ;)
toranokaze • Dec 19, 2009 3:46 am
I have always thought Hitler should get an abortion
Urbane Guerrilla • Dec 19, 2009 4:01 am
Troll;618884 wrote:
Now, lets discuss Hitler and Abortion in the same thread. ;)


Think we should cram Gun Control in there too? And/or Gay Shotgun Weddings?
classicman • Dec 19, 2009 9:14 am
toranokaze;618994 wrote:
I have always thought Hitler's mom should've got an abortion


fixed that for ya.
Sundae • Dec 19, 2009 9:32 am
Urbane Guerrilla;618996 wrote:
Think we should cram Gun Control in there too? And/or Gay Shotgun Weddings?

Shurely a shotgun wedding is where Dad stands by with a shotgun, so the ne'er-do-well that's deflowered his daughter does the right thing by her. How does that happen in a Gay Marriage?

I spose it could work. Some little twink comes home and tells Dad he's in love with the first man to penetrate him, and Dad tracks him down with a gun and forces him to move to Vermont...?
TheMercenary • Dec 19, 2009 10:51 am
LOL @ SG.

thanks for the giggle.
Clodfobble • Dec 19, 2009 1:08 pm
Maybe it's when the parents force a straight wedding on the gay son? Rumor has it that my in-laws, still in severe denial about their obviously gay son, once informed him and his female roommate that they did not approve of this "living in sin" they were doing, and insisted they get married. Not even the accidental discovery of gay porn in the apartment could convince them they were really just roommates.
ZenGum • Dec 19, 2009 4:49 pm
Now that is funny.

Provided you don't stop to think how it is messing up the poor guy's life.
Clodfobble • Dec 20, 2009 10:37 am
Oh that was like 15 years ago--after the father passed away the mother sort of accepted reality. A boyfriend or two has even come for Christmas. They are just his "friend," but they do get token presents.
Sundae • Dec 20, 2009 1:08 pm
Reminds me of a story - no idea where I read it, it might be apocryphal, it might have been set out as truth.

A mother visits her gay son, who has not come out to her yet. He lives with his lover in a two bedroom flat, one single and one double room. He tells her that he will be sleeping on the sofa for the duration of her visit, giving up the single bed in his bedroom.

After she leaves, his flatmate notices a set of very valuable silver spoons are missing. They check and check, but they are definitely gone. The only person through the door recently (apart from them) is the mother.

Horribly embarrassed, the son calls and says, "Mum I'm so sorry to ask, but did you by chance take our silver spoons?"

"No." Says Mum. "They're right where I left them, under your duvet. Anything you'd like to tell me son?"
TheMercenary • Dec 20, 2009 1:22 pm
I don't get it. Sorry.
Griff • Dec 20, 2009 1:55 pm
She left them under the bed spread in her Son's room, which he never uses.
Sundae • Dec 20, 2009 1:56 pm
I've amended two words, but I don't think they really mattered.

The story is that the Mum suspects the son is gay, but he has never told her.
When she leaves, she puts a valuable item in the bed her son supposedly sleeps in. Her suspicions are confirmed when he does not discover them - ie that he is sleeping in the double bed in the other room, with the person he claims just to be a flatmate ("roomie" I think you'd say).

It's not supposed to be funny. Just a tale of how a wily mother gets her son to admit something he was previously scared to do.

ETA - Griff got there first.
TheMercenary • Dec 20, 2009 2:06 pm
got it.