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Corporations. Small business. Whatever. Humans are not meant to be farmed? |
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The left tentacle never knows what the right tentacle is doing. |
Some CEOs use that to make the tentacles compete.
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Shouldn't matter that this one doesn't know that one if all are equally pointed in the same direction and serve the same master. The employees, elected and appointed, however, don't serve: they rule, and they do it under the umbrella of, hefting the Big Stick of, government. # Quote:
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Yeah, AT&T started that in the 80s. It worked out well, by which I mean "That was effectively the end of AT&T." Same thing happened to Sears. |
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You're technically correct. They have the government do that for them. |
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In other words, as each state made it mandatory, everyone in the industry suddenly made more money. So it counts, unless you split hairs for a living. |
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When I'm tried, and found guilty, the fine I pay is to the state: I pay no compensation to the business. And, the final nail: if I have no car, then I don't have to buy insurance. I get your point, but you're wrong. |
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Well, yes, I suppose if you have the picture of corporations being good guys, as opposed to mindless beasts, and the government being bad guys (as opposed to a different kind of mindless beast) you'd interpret things that way. |
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Hey you guys, what's with the civil discourse? You're out of step with the internet, the nation, the world. :lol:
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So I'm on my absolute best behavior. |
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We can conclude: fear & apathy can make for a good simulation of civility. |
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Aversion. That's the word I'm looking for. |
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I stand corrected: 👍🏻 |
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That would show a lack of commitment.
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Reddit "quarantined" /r/Wuhan_Flu, which means you can read it but the "official word" is that it's ungood. (The irony that they call it "quarantining" is not lost.) Please overlook the $150,000,000 investment a Chinese tech firm made in Reddit months ago. Surely that would not affect how they manage the site. LOL.
(Also, aside from the crappy management and moderation, Reddit is slowly turning into shit as teens invade it. That is just my opinion) Zero Hedge was banned from Twitter for Wuhan-related journalism. It has been noticed that many social media bans come shortly after Buzzfeed calls a PR department, and says they are going to run a story on a user, and "would you like to comment"? In this case it came after Buzzfeed wrote a story alleging that Zero Hedge doxxed a Chinese researcher. Zero Hedge disagrees. |
I read the whole Zero Hedge article. IMHO, they are engaged in incitement that doesn't help the situation and deserved a temporary ban.
First, knowing where the virus came from--specifically, whether it was a natural species-jump or an accidental/intentional leak from a biological weapons lab as Zero Hedge alleges--is necessary in the long-term, but it doesn't make a difference right now when it comes to containing and treating it. Righteous anger and due punishment can only prevent future problems, not deal with current ones. Second, let's say this one scientist did have "answers" to give. Those answers would have to be legitimately received/extracted by people with power to have any meaning. If I, an angry American citizen, call his personal number a thousand times a day until he relents and says, "You're right! I totally developed this virus and it escaped!"... then what? I call my Senator? I fly over and punch him as he so richly deserves? I post his confession to the internet so other people can go over and punch him, too? I create an outcry so big that the Chinese government is shamed into publicly scapegoating him--which they may have done anyway, and may actually be a tiny part of the truth that they are happy to concede, and in any case can spin a thousand ways to their own purposes? Third, it's completely disingenuous to claim "the contact information was public so it isn't doxxing." The word fire is just a word, too, until it's shouted in a crowded theater. Context matters. Zero Hedge told their hordes of followers that this one person needed interrogating, and posted his name, picture, address, and phone number precisely because they know the response would be much lower if their readers were expected to seek out that information on their own. The main feature of doxxing is that it bypasses the natural selection of lethargy--and that's precisely what Zero Hedge intended to happen here. General rule of thumb: if it's a "call to action" of any kind, it's not news, it's incitement. The only judgment call to be made is whether that incitement is beneficial to the individual, society, or neither. |
I didn't read the article and I'm not going to. Doxxing is bad. People who do it should be drawn and quartered. If you support it you're an asshole.
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Especially if your readership is interested in an unorthodox point of view -- and what worthwhile readership isn't? You would not want them, and your relationship to them, described that way. Quote:
But I think, if harassment was the intent, they would put the guy's number right on Twitter. Instead, they put it at the very bottom of a very long post, at what appears to be an excellent vector of information. I figured the point was to encourage better original reporting. Quote:
And it's still a gray area, innit? If I think a gummint official is lying, or, say, I dunno, Tucker Carlson - surely I can give out their office number. But definitely not their home number. |
Seems to if the guy they are calling out did indeed create this virus and has been working with it before it escaped, he might know some weaknesses, some vulnerabilities of the virus, maybe even the best way to kill it. If that's true, then that information should be extracted from him and distributed. If it's not true, then this is a time wasting red herring.
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Yeah I'm sure THIS is the way to get things done. LET'S HARASS THE SANDY HOOK PARENTS! LET'S HARASS THE DELEGATES WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR BERNIE! HARASS A SENATOR SO HE WON'T CONFIRM KAVANAUGH! HARASS A VACCINE SCIENTIST UNTIL HE ADMITS THAT VACCINES CAUSE AREA 51 NANOBOTS TO CREATE CHEMTRAILS!
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Who said harass him, if the story is true then the health people should find out everything he knows about the virus.
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But that's not what the story's author urged. He said,
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I guess I'm the 0.01% since I could glean useful information from that detail without being interested in harassment.
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IMHO, in this instance Clod nailed it. It's a propaganda piece designed to encourage others to extort information from an individual insider, by putting that person on the defensive, without that person's information being filtered by the Chinese government.
The article is heavy on argument for a containment breach and the wording "(accidentally or not)" suggests it's targeting people predisposed to conspiracy theories with a motivational message. The article is light on argument for a natural mutation of the zoonotic virus; also, light on appeals for help from the expert. Good propaganda pieces do have useful information to be gleaned; but, only that which steers the target audience in a desired direction. Not everyone will be swayed by it, sometimes not even most, as a handful who are willing to act may be all that's needed. |
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Zuck started drawing a line in the sand!
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The man behind the curtain will be very happy when he can blame the A/I Robot Overlords.
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It's basically a boring version of Alex Jones. |
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Right, one of the questions we need to deal with as a society is, shall we allow the shit-stirrers and conspiracy theorists on our social medias?
I say, sure. Everything is a theory until proven; you have to consider all the thoughts, in order to parse out what is correct. Which is also somewhat true about news agencies we don't prefer. I may not like my neighbor's mean dog; but if I hear him barking frantically at 2am, that may still be useful information I can use. Alex Jones spent time talking about some dude named Jeffrey Epstein, and alleged that this rich guy had a pedophile island, and he'd fly powerful rich people to it. It was deep conspiracy theory... at the time... |
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If the army can't do it, nobody can. In fact, the more you try to suppress rumors, the more they propagate. |
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But I guess you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. |
No, you truly cannot.
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He's a vulture of the worst sort. |
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Have you seen the video where he says, in all seriousness, "God told me to.. DESTROY. JOE. ROGAN." Unfortunately we've hit this point in our society where being attention-grabbing makes you a source of truth. Maybe that's the way people have always been. |
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But with social media and attention whore news, the mobs are a lot bigger like Charlottesville. |
Netflix reveals the nine times a government has requested they take something down.
Singapore: 5 New Zealand: 1 Vietnam: 1 Germany: 1 Saudi Arabia: 1 They don't operate in China. |
The actual list from Netflix
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If that's the only thing Germany ever requested to have removed, then it's only because Netflix had already done some serious self-policing. They've gotten a little better in just the last few years, but Germany's censorship laws are still surprisingly draconian.
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Bacefook has hired Jennifer Williams a former Fox and Friends producer to help "curate" the news, whatever that means.
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Reddit banned several moderators of already-quarantined subreddit /r/The_Donald, and posted a strange set of rules for whom they would like to be the next moderators.
Understand, as a private place they can manage political matters however they like; but this brazen micro-management of a forum is ridiculous. I'm like, that's not how this works. Separately, Reddit announced that they would ban users who "consistently upvote policy-breaking content within quarantined communities." Good lord. This means they're doing data-mining to locate users they don't like! My theory is that Reddit, which started out very okay, has lost its mojo over the last year or two -- due to an influx of low-quality users. I'm talking about teenagers, low-IQ shitposters, brazen keyboard warriors. Better quality users are departing, because why deal with all of that? All these types are attracted to Reddit because its lack of real community; how it treats anonymity, how it fails to protect communities and instead tries to protect itself. How it does not support real conversation. Reddit's answer to this is to create and enforce its own personal and, BTW, corporate cancel culture. Bold strategy, let's see if it pays off. |
I try to stay off of politics forums, and other such BS. The only thing I look at on Reddit is the BBQ and smoking meat forums. This morning I was looking at Fark.com and every tab I clicked on was either about trump, or Bernie. I haven't been back.
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How are the rules strange?
ETA: Legit asking, I have no idea what their rules are for that or any other subreddit |
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