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Look at the 1989 Civic hatchback in comparison.

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I gotta go Google the coefficients of friction for both these cars.

Edit: It looks like my comparison is not fair because the Mazda 6 appears to be a four door coupe and this civic is a 2 door hatchback. Also exhaustive lists showing coefficients of friction are hard to find.

Edit #2: A fairer comparison is a 1989 Mazda 626. You can see through this thing:

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It has a coefficient of drag of 0.33 while the current Mazda 6 has 0.27. So the more modern one is slightly more aerodynamic, as you would expect, but not significantly more.

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 899372)

The styling of cars today results in poor visibility to the point that many of them offer back up cameras so the driver can see. I don't approve.

Your right on the money, visibility has taken a big hit in recent years, and it's not all in the name of streamlining. Models, like hatchbacks, are in and out of style but I think that is driven more by the makers than consumers.
The fastbacks are much tougher to design in visibility, but why bother when half the people on the road are oblivious to anything they can't see through the windshield. :dedhors2:

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 899392)

fixed that for ya.

I have a folder where I park pictures and material I've snatched off the web concerning old Indian Motocycles. Here's a couple.

Smart car alllllmost gets the best of a Shelby Mustang:

A sub-14 second Smart Car....With that short wheel base, and narrow track, I'll bet that is one twitchy sumbitch.

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 900142)

Smart car alllllmost gets the best of a Shelby Mustang:

A sub-14 second Smart Car....With that short wheel base, and narrow track, I'll bet that is one twitchy sumbitch.

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I have driven the Smart Fortwo several times. Twitchy is an understatement. Here you see me parked perpendicular to the curb, at my house, with my VW Golf fender in the foreground for comparison. They're very, very tiny. They're tall, so there's room for me and Twil to both sit up straight, which I love. For in city driving, they're fucking awesome. The Car2Go system is super easy, fairly priced, convenient and fun. The car is a ball to drive in the city. Plenty of pickup, responsive, good visibility, loud horn, etc. The shifting with the semi-automatic transmission is pretty jerky at times. That little three-banger gets wound waaay up before shifting--kaCHUNK.

The car's less fun on the freeway, but it can handle it. A bit bouncy over expansion joints, and I haven't driven one with a substantial crosswind and I'm not looking forward to it. All in all, a very fine city car. For the city. For two. And a couple bags of groceries.

Hey, look! It's one of them trailervans.

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That's interesting. :yesnod:

Maybe he's French. :lol:

Heh, that's damn near a Citroen inception.