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glatt 10-10-2020 05:43 PM

The Cellar is a force for good in the world
Iíve been on the Mission and Outreach committee at my church for the last five years or so. Itís the group tasked with deciding how that community is going to do good in the world. We used to give money to a food pantry and fix up houses for little old ladies and things like that. We got a new priest two years ago, and she wanted us to really look at what it means to do good in the world, and examine what we were doing.

We read a bunch of books and talked about it a lot and basically came to the conclusion that the best thing you can do for others is to make relationships with them so that you can reach understanding and have empathy for one another. As a church, thatís really hard. Strangers stopping strangers, just to shake their hands, sounds good in a song, but really goes against human nature. Weíre still trying to figure it out, but have at least started a partnership with a black church of another denomination to just have conversations. We still give money to the food pantry, because there is a need, but itís really not the ideal way to be doing good in the world, because you injure the self esteem of people when you give them handouts.

So itís with that lens that I am looking at the Cellar.

2020 has been lacking in an abundance of joyful moments for just about everyone, and that is reflected in the Cellar. Flint was abusive to an annoying new member and really took it too far, like he always does. Heís fully embroiled in the divisive politics of the world. It spills over here in the Cellar. Political discussions in the Cellar are pretty toxic right now. Worse than in previous election years, which have always been a little toxic.

Politics aside, I think this is a really good community and the regular members get a lot out of coming here. We make real connections. We are doing here what my Mission and Outreach committee has identified as being the most important thing.

Last week I fixed my car. I told my wife and daughter and they didnít care much. I was excited about what I did and wanted to tell people who would care. Who would share in my victory. I came here and talked about it, and Dwellars sat with me. They read my little story and cared. There was empathy.

Think of all the troubled souls who have come here for comfort over the years and found it. And not just troubled souls. People who are happy and sharing their victories or their kidsí victories.

The Cellar is doing good work. Even if there is a lot of noise to look past.

BigV 10-10-2020 05:53 PM

I agree completely.

lumberjim 10-10-2020 06:35 PM

I told you guys about Ripley before I told my mom.

Gravdigr 10-10-2020 06:37 PM

I cannot count the times I have benefited from The Cellar and the people here.

And I thank each one of you.


Gravdigr 10-10-2020 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 1059860)
I told you guys about Ripley before I told my mom.


I thought about her just the other night.

Rhianne 10-10-2020 06:49 PM

And I remember when direct action by a member here saved the life of another that I think we all loved.

Gravdigr 10-10-2020 06:53 PM


Not forgotten. Her nor the direct action.

Many thanks, sir.

Gravdigr 10-10-2020 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Rhianne (Post 1059865)
And I remember when direct action by a member here saved the life of another that I think we all loved.


Griff 10-10-2020 06:59 PM

This place is bigger than us all.

monster 10-10-2020 07:04 PM

I just told another dwellar this is the only place I have felt comfortable talking about the things I need(ed) to talk about when beest... But it hasn't been the same Cellar recently, and the stuff that makes it unpleasant for me has multiplied significantly . So I get it, but I will miss it. Most of it.

I will not miss old threads being resurrected without purpose other than because the housebound are bored and don't have thought or empathy for those who went before.

I will miss the irreverence. And the judiciously limited use of the ban hammer. The wit. And the "Cellar Car" Spirit. That's what made it The Cellar.

jaminhealth 10-10-2020 07:06 PM

Interesting read Glatt, guess I just joined Cellar way way too late to get the good friendship and now since I'm the "annoying new member" I guess they teach that in your church work.

I think it was you who mentioned "no new members in a long time" and wonder why. And as I said I would have Never found it had one of your members had not invited me here....

I don't belong to any church ANYMORE, and don't need a church to teach me how to be decent to people...I came here with good intentions, and sure was shot down by so many. Peace out Glatt...

Not that it matters but I'm wondering what this ole new member is annoying to you?

glatt 10-10-2020 07:15 PM

I know my words were hurtful to you, and Iím sorry for that.

glatt 10-10-2020 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1059862)

I thought about her just the other night.

I thought of her recently too.

You guys matter to me.

lumberjim 10-10-2020 07:46 PM

I just re-read the other lumberthing thread, and want to say thanks again for all of your support. I didn't want to bump that thread, so I'm saying it on this one.

I couldn't find that video her friend did until I saw it in there. I just heard her voice again, and saw her moving. Blessing.

Saved the video and now I have it.

I've learned to play that song, Masterpiece, and am going to play it right now. And maybe cry a little.

lumberjim 10-10-2020 08:04 PM

Huh. No tears. Somehow it didn't make me sad at all. Must have played it too many times.

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