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xoxoxoBruce 07-01-2020 03:19 PM

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Mustang wagons...

Diaphone Jim 07-01-2020 05:35 PM

Speaking of Mustangs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvQFDtJUdHw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_Run_Challenge

They are still at this, setting new records for Covid-19 Cannonballs.
That is one rental I wouldn't want to buy.
For every hour loafing at 70 MPH, plan on one at 146.

I wonder if this guy ever heard of Pierre Levegh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Levegh

xoxoxoBruce 07-01-2020 05:46 PM

Lots of people died on racetracks, nobody had been hurt and no serious accidents on a Cannonball Baker Sea to Shining Sea Memorial trophy Dash.

Diaphone Jim 07-02-2020 11:15 AM

Bruce: My point was fatigue. Going 140 mph on public highways is dangerous enough without the perils of sleep deprivation we have all experienced.
In 1955 Pierre Levegh decided to drive the whole 24 hours of Le Mans by himself (no co-driver) and it contributed to 80+ deaths and 100+ injuries. They prohibited solo runs after that.
I
don't know how it is certain that there have no wrecks, injuries or even deaths with the current apparent increase in current attempts.

xoxoxoBruce 07-02-2020 07:32 PM

Driving at 140 or more doesn't make you sleepy, quite the contrary. Most attempts have three people in the car so they can switch off driving and sleeping yet none to date have been able to sleep. They keep amused with stuff like short wave radios or long distance infrared spotter-scopes.
Either the last record breaker or the one before him had over twenty spotters across the country calling in traffic, weather, and patrol changes.
The cars are prepared with good brakes, pee bottles, and at least V tires.
I remember one attempt they left the Red Ball garage and almost immediately hit a traffic jam in NJ. After 20 minutes the trip was cancelled, no reason to continue. I never did find out what caused the traffic jam, maybe Christy.

We know because there are people keeping track of the attempts.
It makes no sense to do it if you won't get recognition for it.
In order to get recognition certain people have to be made aware in advance.

xoxoxoBruce 07-02-2020 07:36 PM

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Packard trucks...

Griff 07-03-2020 10:16 AM

Nice.

Gravdigr 07-03-2020 07:44 PM

Awfully spiffy,
For a hillbiffy

xoxoxoBruce 07-03-2020 10:40 PM

I think the '18 and '37 are legit, but the '40 on up have 4 doors so probably built from flower cars or sedans.

Gravdigr 07-03-2020 10:42 PM

Say...

Where would you take your convertible to have the fabric portion of your top worked on?

Upholsterer? Vinyl top guy?

I'm coming unglued. Kinda.

xoxoxoBruce 07-03-2020 10:52 PM

I think most car upholstery shops do soft tops too, at least up this way.

Gravdigr 07-03-2020 11:00 PM

I was kinda at a loss. Thanks.

xoxoxoBruce 07-03-2020 11:02 PM

If your Google automobile convertible tops it should point out some shops in your area. A feature that drives me nuts most of the time.

xoxoxoBruce 07-04-2020 11:37 PM

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Buick Riviera concept show cars. The transition from concept to production lost the dip at the rear of the door, and the styling boss was unhappy. So they built three Silver Arrow concepts trying to push the vision but the bean counters won in the end.

BigV 07-05-2020 10:16 AM

That is a gorgeous car.

Gravdigr 07-05-2020 12:56 PM

I've always liked the boattail Rivs.

xoxoxoBruce 07-06-2020 12:55 AM

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I wonder how often this guy gets pulled over?

Gravdigr 07-06-2020 04:51 PM

Interesting, but, a waste of an old Chevy.

BigV 07-06-2020 05:44 PM

Well, half wasted, to be precise.

xoxoxoBruce 07-06-2020 11:42 PM

I'm wondering how he steers it remotely. I thought it might be rear steer but looking closely I think it's a pickup cab & nose on the rear of a bigger truck chassis. Probably a standard power steer unit with long hoses.

xoxoxoBruce 07-08-2020 12:00 AM

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Just what you need, the guy in front doing a brake check. :rolleyes:

BigV 07-14-2020 11:37 AM

Now I want a Bronco.


xoxoxoBruce 07-14-2020 11:41 PM

With your 2021 Bronco you can trek to that pristine wilderness and tear it the fuck up.

Will they ever make an ad for a Ford product that doesn't mention the mustang. :rolleyes:
Mustangs that weren't massaged by a race team weren't that great.

xoxoxoBruce 07-16-2020 12:31 AM

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Sometimes when your ride gets old and beat up you have to stitch it up like a teddy bear.

glatt 07-16-2020 08:32 AM

I love that. It's perfect.

xoxoxoBruce 07-26-2020 08:51 PM

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A very handsome wagon you can't have...

Diaphone Jim 07-27-2020 11:43 AM

My first thought was "shooting brake," but no?
This doesn't help much:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting-brake

but it does have this photo of what has to be one of the most beautiful vehicles ever built:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1...ting_Brake.JPG

xoxoxoBruce 08-02-2020 04:33 PM

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Caddy V-16s

BigV 08-02-2020 05:09 PM

Ooohhh, those are very pretty.

xoxoxoBruce 08-04-2020 08:24 PM

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All the scrap metal collected in all the scrap drives amounted to about 2% of the war effort metal used.
This was 10 months after Pearl Harbor and everyone (almost) was desperate to help.

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Of course he had the decal on the window, he wasn't a Steve Jobs trading in cars every six months because he was above having to have licence plates like the common rabble. :eyebrow:

xoxoxoBruce 08-08-2020 07:56 PM

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In fairness it was Ford's ugliest year...

BigV 08-09-2020 10:18 AM

Lol.

Typical Californian.

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2020 09:34 AM

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Friends are good although strangers may be better in some instances. ;)

BigV 08-16-2020 02:07 PM

Toughest ford ever.

xoxoxoBruce 08-18-2020 11:57 PM

Dad joke. :facepalm:

xoxoxoBruce 08-28-2020 01:30 AM

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Gotten crazy...

xoxoxoBruce 08-29-2020 12:23 AM

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Man, I went down a hell of a rabbit hole with this one... :smack:

I only brought back up what would fit in my pocket...

Diaphone Jim 08-29-2020 11:19 AM

I've always associated the Cheetah (lower right) with Bill Thomas.
This makes the connection with Alan Green.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/201...ads-to-auction

xoxoxoBruce 08-29-2020 07:27 PM

I heard that Green also had a Cheetah for the street as well.

xoxoxoBruce 09-03-2020 11:29 PM

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I'm thinking when you're rich and own a million acre ranch in Texas, you probably buy enough trucks every year to have some pull with GM...

Gravdigr 09-04-2020 01:54 PM

...and Ford.

xoxoxoBruce 09-05-2020 02:40 AM

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Yes, Ford now with their $100,000 Ford pickups.

Here's the very first Corvette.

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I remember being in a lot of pictures like that at Boeing, first this, last that, 1000th the other. They had a couple of full time photographers.

Griff 09-05-2020 07:37 AM

I saw a 1959 Chevy Apache pickup in the wild yesterday sorry no pic but damn that was sharp... pretty racist in 2020 but sharp. lol

Gravdigr 09-05-2020 10:23 AM

I did not know there were Apaches in Pennsyltucky.

Griff 09-05-2020 11:27 AM

They didn't need to be brave as I spotted it up in Iroquois country, fwiw NEPA was mostly Delaware/Susquehannock.

xoxoxoBruce 09-05-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1057504)
I saw a 1959 Chevy Apache pickup in the wild yesterday sorry no pic but damn that was sharp... pretty racist in 2020 but sharp. lol

I don't get it, why is that racist. To name that truck model after a tribe is not an insult it's meant as an honor.
Apache is a blanket term for a bunch of tribes and probably not what they referred to themselves as anyway.
Cultural appropriation? Bullshit, the history of mankind is copy what you like, discard what you don't.
If everyone in your family or neighborhood goes for a swim before breakfast, I'm not allowed to do that too?
If I hear a word in another language/dialect which better describes something than the word I have for it, I'm not allowed to use that word?
Is this a game of look what offends me that you didn't think of, neener neener.
Racism is a real problem and I hate seeing it diluted by and ridiculed because of these silly claims.
Would the Redskins be offensive if they weren't losers? :haha:

Undertoad 09-05-2020 08:03 PM

by participating in the system you are racist because you benefited from the systemic oppression

if you say you aren't racist that makes you, obviously, racist since you are unaware of your advantage

by fighting this form of anti-racism you are literally hitler

...is what they believe

xoxoxoBruce 09-05-2020 08:31 PM

Yeah yeah, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
I don't buy that either. :headshake

sexobon 09-05-2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1057504)
I saw a 1959 Chevy Apache pickup in the wild yesterday ...

I hope it had a radio.


Griff 09-06-2020 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1057539)
by participating in the system you are racist because you benefited from the systemic oppression

if you say you aren't racist that makes you, obviously, racist since you are unaware of your advantage

by fighting this form of anti-racism you are literally hitler

...is what they believe

This is what you believe people believe.

Griff 09-06-2020 06:33 AM

If they is me, I don't think it's a kindness to use another groups identity to move your product unless they have involvement in the thing. Nobody thought about that in 1959 but people do think about that in 2020 and no you're not being oppressed.

Undertoad 09-06-2020 07:09 AM

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This is what you believe people believe.
This is the narrative of a number one best-selling book

Griff 09-06-2020 10:20 AM

A book which I've never heard of.

Griff 09-06-2020 10:27 AM

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Nonetheless a beautiful machine.

Undertoad 09-06-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1057569)
A book which I've never heard of.

you will, it's currently #1 on the Times paperback nonfiction list

Griff 09-06-2020 12:34 PM

I see these kinds of books as a poor mirror of reality. Thoughts about race will ebb and flow. My throw away impression will or will not be part of the long game. I don't see the point of torturing ourselves over the evolution of ideas. That sort of fuckery largely stays on the campus where they think they lead, while a middle way is generally sought by society and industry. The Golden Rule will win out as we figure out how we'd like to be treated. My instinct is that over-intellectualizing the process gives cover to haters of all stripes. /too much drift?

xoxoxoBruce 09-06-2020 12:53 PM

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White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism
Because nobody talks, they either want to attack with all sorts of off the wall generalizations or rediculous personal accusations. On the other side, sick of defending themselves from the ridiculous bullshit charges of being the problem.

Since when does a book on the NYT best seller list represent more than the authors opinion, and maybe half the people who read it.

Quote:

In a 2019 nationwide survey, 86% of white evangelical Protestants and 70% of both white mainline Protestants and white Catholics said that the “Confederate flag is more a symbol of Southern pride than of racism”.

Nearly 66% of white Christians over all said that killings of African-American men by the police are isolated incidents rather than part of a broader pattern of mistreatment.

Over 60% white Christians disagreed with the statement that “generations of slavery and discrimination have created conditions that make it difficult for blacks to work their way out of the lower class.”
Don't equate ignorance with evil intent.

sexobon 09-06-2020 01:21 PM

The real question is: Is it ethical to carry on a discussion about racism, in the "Rims" thread, behind tw's back where he might not notice the opportunity to jump in and blame Trump for all of the world's ills? See, this is the kind of treachery that develops when you don't have new taglines.

xoxoxoBruce 09-06-2020 01:34 PM

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Terrorist sized wagon...

Griff 09-06-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1057586)
The real question is: Is it ethical to carry on a discussion about racism, in the "Rims" thread, behind tw's back where he might not notice the opportunity to jump in and blame Trump for all of the world's ills? See, this is the kind of treachery that develops when you don't have new taglines.

Shhhhh... the walls have ears.

You could get a helluva load of bin Ladens in that thing.


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