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xoxoxoBruce 09-30-2017 12:53 PM

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Unique fenders... No idea how you get in the damn thing.

xoxoxoBruce 10-03-2017 01:06 PM

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:eek: Hours Per Mile :eek:

Gravdigr 10-03-2017 02:24 PM

Roll bar/air tank is brilliant.

Gravdigr 10-03-2017 02:33 PM

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BigV 10-03-2017 02:44 PM

Don't cry, buy!

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xoxoxoBruce 10-03-2017 05:51 PM

That one is in a lot better shape than a lot of the ones I've seen on the net.

I was surprised that crawler with the air tank in the rollbar uses an A/C compressor to fill it. Didn't know they could be used for air.

Gravdigr 10-04-2017 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by BigV (Post 996651)
Don't cry, buy!

Can I borrow your credit card? Just for a minute?

xoxoxoBruce 10-04-2017 07:06 PM

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Want a used car, there's a shitload on them in Houston.:(
All recently washed too.

glatt 10-04-2017 07:11 PM

If I was dictator, I would order them all to be destroyed. They are lemons waiting to happen.

xoxoxoBruce 10-04-2017 07:13 PM

Lot of good parts there though.

glatt 10-04-2017 07:19 PM

That's the problem with being a dictator. These rash judgements are sometimes regrettable.

xoxoxoBruce 10-04-2017 07:23 PM

You could order them dismantled but when they tried that with the gas hog program there was a lot of hanky panky going on.

Clodfobble 10-04-2017 09:29 PM

Can you really ever get the mold smell out? I guess maybe you can replace all the upholstery and still sell a water-logged engine for some amount of profit.

xoxoxoBruce 10-04-2017 11:23 PM

Upholstery and rugs, fugetaboutit. Electronics kind of depend on whether it was fresh or salt and if they were powered when they submerged. Wire harnesses try to reclaim the copper because they are probably corroded inside, plus most of them run at floor level these days.

However there's a shitload of plastic and metal parts that can be cleaned, glass can be reused. Mostly it depends on demand, parts for a Camry are more in demand than parts for a Rolls, and if the parts are cheap enough new to bother salvaging them.

Clodfobble 10-05-2017 07:07 AM

But is there really anything wrong with that? Surely the glass and plastic are fine and won't cause cars to become lemons once they're installed, right?

glatt 10-05-2017 07:12 AM

The existing cars will become lemons because of corrosion that will occur in their wire harnesses, causing all sorts of mysterious intermittent problems.

But you're right, the glass and plastic parts would be fine to reuse. Maybe metal parts too, if you inspect them closely and they have no areas for hidden damage to occur.

xoxoxoBruce 10-05-2017 10:07 AM

Absolutely, metal, glass and plastic are mostly cool to salvage. But the bottom line is there money to be made in some other way than selling them to unwary buyers. If it takes 2 hours to recover a $1 cup holder, then no. If it takes 2 hours to pull a $1,000 pair of fenders or $2,500 front clip, then yes.

I said before try to salvage the copper in the wiring harnesses, but thinking about it that may be not worth the trouble. With the increased use of electronics the harness contains less copper than ever. The wire has become tiny and even my 12 year old truck has the wires carrying power and data on the same wire.

xoxoxoBruce 10-05-2017 10:42 AM

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For the MOPAR freaks...

Gravdigr 10-05-2017 12:32 PM

It's called a Sherp.

Sherpier bigger.

xoxoxoBruce 10-05-2017 06:03 PM

I wonder if it will right itself?

music by Two Steps From Hell - Strength of a Thousand Men

xoxoxoBruce 10-05-2017 11:09 PM

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What the hell, Ford didn't think of the minivan to they tried to rename the station wagon?:rolleyes:

Gravdigr 10-06-2017 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 996797)
I wonder if it will right itself?

Looks like the center of gravity is fairly low, so...


xoxoxoBruce 10-06-2017 02:03 PM

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K-F hung on filling niches and specialty markets the big three didn't bother with. When the post war hunger for new cars had been filled the biggies decided to crush all the little guys.

xoxoxoBruce 10-08-2017 05:55 PM

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I'm guessing "street" is the autobahn.

xoxoxoBruce 10-13-2017 03:01 PM

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I thought after years of drought and disastrous fires in CA, the heavy rains that refilled the reservoirs took care of that. But now northern CA is ablaze.

fargon 10-13-2017 05:34 PM

That's sad.

glatt 10-14-2017 11:20 AM

Look at that earthquake resistant foundation.

Gravdigr 10-14-2017 02:28 PM

Fuck 'em. Burn 'em all.

xoxoxoBruce 10-14-2017 02:37 PM

Burn all the earthquake-proof foundations?

Gravdigr 10-15-2017 12:00 PM

Yeah, because that makes perfect sense.

Gravdigr 10-15-2017 12:00 PM

The Californians, ya stovebolt.

xoxoxoBruce 10-15-2017 08:41 PM

Envy will get you nowhere. And I'm not a stovebolt, I'm an LS-2.

fargon 10-15-2017 09:23 PM

I'm a Stovebolt.

xoxoxoBruce 10-16-2017 10:40 PM

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Chebbys, a whole lot of Chebbys...

xoxoxoBruce 10-17-2017 10:04 PM

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xoxoxoBruce 10-18-2017 02:51 PM

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Invented by the guy who invented 33 1/3 LP records because he hated Rock&Roll.

xoxoxoBruce 10-18-2017 03:05 PM

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When it's time to retire...

xoxoxoBruce 10-21-2017 09:17 AM

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This looks like an artists conception, but it's a posterized photograph of a real custom car built in England and shipped over for last years SEMA show in Vegas.

xoxoxoBruce 10-24-2017 12:12 AM

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KILL IT! Kill it with FIRE!

Gravdigr 10-24-2017 12:02 PM

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Gravdigr 10-24-2017 02:34 PM

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Gravdigr 10-24-2017 04:17 PM

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xoxoxoBruce 10-24-2017 05:21 PM

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Hang on tight...

Gravdigr 10-25-2017 01:20 AM

That's a lot of plumbing.

Gravdigr 10-25-2017 01:18 PM

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Secure your load, or, lose your head. And shoulders.

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Glinda 10-25-2017 01:19 PM

Day-umm! Were there any survivors?

xoxoxoBruce 10-25-2017 10:27 PM

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Room to uh... wrestle. :blush:

xoxoxoBruce 10-27-2017 09:28 AM

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When your '07 Mercedes time-to-change-the-oil light comes on, after the oil change just reset the light. In my '06 Chevy I have to push one button then push and hold a second button, both on the steering wheel.

glatt 10-27-2017 10:54 AM

Typical German engineering

Gravdigr 10-27-2017 12:21 PM

Good grief.:facepalm:

xoxoxoBruce 10-31-2017 11:09 PM

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It runs crappy so just jerry-rig the door. :rolleyes:

glatt 11-01-2017 07:34 AM

It looks like that deformed spark plug would be nearly impossible to remove, yet when you look closely, there are no visible socket wrench marks on the flats where it might have been unscrewed. Did it just shoot out of its hole during ignition? What the hell happened?

xoxoxoBruce 11-01-2017 09:33 AM

Don't know, if it was an aluminum head it might have melted it's way out.
Note the electrode is still good , even the gap, so it must have been a defective plug.

xoxoxoBruce 11-01-2017 09:26 PM

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Antique? Historical? Jetta? :eyebrow:

Gravdigr 11-02-2017 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 998004)
Jetta? :eyebrow:


Smoked 'em consistently with my '78 Fiesta. They didn't have a clue.

That one up there, might have a clue.

Gravdigr 11-02-2017 04:03 PM

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WTF is this?!

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That, friends and neighbors, is a '72 AMC Javelin, believe it or don't.

A '72 AMC Javelin by Ringbrothers. With a Hellcat crate motor making 1,100 horsepower.

WANT. Want bad.:drool:

Gravdigr 11-02-2017 04:05 PM

It's like if Mad Max gave a shit what his car looked like.:devil:

captainhook455 11-02-2017 05:51 PM

Looks like a Mustang Firebird. Why couldn't GM go with Pontiac instead of Buick? These should be questions Jim could answer.

Kinda like there are no new station wagons made, but plenty of SUV's. What started that trend? Maybe the mini van.

I hate to ask Jim about Toyotas since he sells Nissan's, but drives a Jeep. So if I drive a Toyota off a 300' cliff will the car stop before it hits the bottom of the ravine?

xoxoxoBruce 11-02-2017 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 998026)

Smoked 'em consistently with my '78 Fiesta. They didn't have a clue.

That one up there, might have a clue.

Yes Rabbit, thank you.
The Javelin is all kinds of cool but the front end is butt ugly.

Tarheel, the minivan replaced the wagon because the wagon had the suburban family with kids label, plus it was much more efficient and easier to tote kids and their gear. But then the minivan got the Soccer Mom tag which was the kiss of death.
They couldn't go back to wagons so they sold them on the SUVs, which is roomy but a pain in the ass for hauling the tribe. However it hadn't come to represent the MILF with spawn yet.
Now, selling wagons and minivans is an uphill struggle because you are what you drive. Image is everything.

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