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Old 03-28-2015, 07:21 AM   #1
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Our New Improved Middle East

As near as I can figure it, we have right now the conditions the neo-cons wanted for the middle east. States have failed and are in turmoil. So now we wait for liberal democracy to sweep across the area respecting minority rights, building modern societies... maybe if we just topple Iran everything will be perfect?
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Old 03-28-2015, 10:27 AM   #2
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The 1% complain the 0.1% have taken over.
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Old 03-28-2015, 02:24 PM   #3
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... So now we wait for liberal democracy to sweep across the area respecting minority rights, building modern societies...
Meanwhile we'll wish them a Happy Easter.
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Old 03-28-2015, 02:30 PM   #4
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So version 2.0 of crony capitalism isn't working out for the beneficiaries of version 1.0? Who would've expected that?
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:27 PM   #5
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I joined Cellar when I was 25. 9/11 happened later that year. I will be 40 in October.
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Old 03-28-2015, 11:43 PM   #6
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Old 03-28-2015, 11:46 PM   #7
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Apparently God only lives in Jerusalem and we have to really fight over that piece of rock. Also, Shiites and Sunnis each have the corner on Islam and the leadership of the Umma if they can just kill off enough of the other heretics. Also, the US, back in 1947 told Israel and Pakistan that we are with you no matter what....apparently we are not allowed to re-evaluate that position. Also, I stubbed my toe this morning and all problems are local. My stream of consciousness at 0100 in the AM seems to be a bit loose.
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Old 03-29-2015, 12:04 AM   #8
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We must always remember Israel is an ally not a friend.
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Old 03-31-2015, 02:09 PM   #9
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Yemen has been in the news lately, what with the US getting the hell out of Dodge as it falls apart.

When I picture Yemen, I picture sand. Lots and lots of sand. I think an episode of the Amazing Race was shot there, and they had to learn how to drive SUVs at high speed through the sand dunes.

Anyway, Yemen isn't just sand.

This is Yemen. If we're going to be hearing about it in the news shouldn't we at least look at a few pictures of it so it's real to us?

It's also lush and green.
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Google Images also puts that 2nd pic clear over in Nepal.
But then who knows what the internet portends.

All the khats lined up in rows
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Old 03-31-2015, 03:22 PM   #11
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Google Images also puts that 2nd pic clear over in Nepal.
But then who knows what the internet portends.
Interesting. I got that image from Panoramio in Google Earth. They are usually pretty good. It's located here. 1351'59.37"N, 44 3'3.16"E

But I agree that the image doesn't match the satellite view perfectly.

This is more typical of that valley:
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Old 04-01-2015, 06:30 AM   #12
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I had no idea that there was decent land in Yemen. Wiki describes its recent government as a kleptocracy so maybe we can be forgiven for not touring the area.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:47 AM   #13
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Yemen, 25 million people but not very much food.

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Yemen, with its wide range of arable climatic zones, has the greatest potential for agricultural development of any nation on the Arabian Peninsula. Agriculture is an important part of the economy (accounting for 17% of GDP in 2001), despite the lack of arable land, scarcity of water, periodic droughts, and difficult terrain. Employment in the agricultural sector accounts for more than 64% of the workforce, but with only 3% of its land area arable, Yemen's potential for agricultural self-sufficiency is very remote. As of 2001, Yemen imported $857.2 million in agricultural products.
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:22 PM   #14
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http://www.npr.org/2015/04/01/396757...-play-in-yemen
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:53 PM   #15
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From Wikipedia, I'll have to check the numbers:

In Yemen, income from oil production constitutes 70 to 75 percent of government revenue and about 90 percent of exports.

I'll bet the the guys working the fields are like our guys working the fields only from Malaysia.
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