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Old 11-16-2015, 12:40 AM   #31
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And what good is it doing?


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Twelve French aircraft, ten of which were fighters, dropped 20 munitions on the de-facto ISIS capital of Raqqa in Syria today. This appears to be France’s opening reprisal on ISIS for the terror attacks in Paris on Friday night. The AP reports ISIS targets hit include command and control centers, recruitment center, a munitions depot and training camp.These strikes come as the U.S. has moved to share highly-detailed targeting information with the French military, which could be used for immediate retaliatory airstrikes in Syria.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:03 AM   #32
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And what good is it doing?


This just in,
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Twelve French aircraft, ten of which were fighters, dropped 20 munitions on the de-facto ISIS capital of Raqqa in Syria today. This appears to be France’s opening reprisal on ISIS for the terror attacks in Paris on Friday night. The AP reports ISIS targets hit include command and control centers, recruitment center, a munitions depot and training camp.These strikes come as the U.S. has moved to share highly-detailed targeting information with the French military, which could be used for immediate retaliatory airstrikes in Syria.
And what good is it doing?

If we had all this detailed targeting information, why weren't these targets already taken out before; unless, it wouldn't have done much good?
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:20 AM   #33
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Observed a minute's silence at 11.00.
I admit I really don't like these. I only observe them out of courtesy.
YES on Remembrance Sunday/ 11 November. And YES I understand them at football matches where someone closely connected to the club has died.
But otherwise they stick in my craw slightly. Still, makes it easier to stay silent

As you will see from my earlier posts, I was genuinely affected by the murders. Having lived closely with terrorism it always will be an issue for me when it's in a place I know.
It's just random silences I can't be doing with.
They're the Facebook messages (or Clod's husband's chain email) of real life - they're arranged to make people feel like they've done something when in fact they've done nothing.

At least a memorial service, or a candlelit vigil gets you up off your seat.
Opening your house to strangers who can't get home is amazing and helpful.
Giving blood (they had to turn people away - some were waiting for three hours to donate) is important and decent and wonderful.

Shutting your yap for a minute?
Doesn't do much.
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Old 11-16-2015, 06:12 AM   #34
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Shutting your yap for a minute?
Doesn't do much.
Except that French news programmes will likely report that Britain, and other countries observed a minute's silence. It's not much, but it sends a message of solidarity and support.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:25 AM   #35
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At Mr. Clod's company, there was a COMPANY-WIDE email thread ....
Jeez.
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:15 AM   #36
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And what good is it doing?

If we had all this detailed targeting information, why weren't these targets already taken out before; unless, it wouldn't have done much good?
It's doing what isis wanted, a boost in their recruiting campaign.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:10 AM   #37
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Axxxxxx Jxxxxxx - Thoughts and prayers
NSFW language follows...

This young man is doing his thing on 11/13/15
He mocks others who he projects as only saying:
“Don’t forget about me.”

But who is "me" ?

In this case, "me" has the initials A J
And, aside from getting to say the word "fucking" several times in public,
A J has used his time to produce a routine worth just what he says: “fucking nothing”.

Forget Axxxxxx Jxxxxxx

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Old 11-16-2015, 04:22 PM   #38
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My thoughts and prayers with Lamplighter.
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Old 11-16-2015, 04:26 PM   #39
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:37 PM   #40
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Observed a minute's silence at 11.00.
I admit I really don't like these. I only observe them out of courtesy.
YES on Remembrance Sunday/ 11 November. And YES I understand them at football matches where someone closely connected to the club has died.
But otherwise they stick in my craw slightly. Still, makes it easier to stay silent
Watch the many servicemen confronted by strangers who say, "Thank you for your service." They don't want that. It clearly makes them uncomfortable. But they are also happy and appreciate discussing their service - just as you are happly to discuss events - good and bad - that happened to you.

A minute of silence is about whether the letter is capitalized or lower case. We do it to be nice or respectful. What really matters is what we do aftter the fact to learn from that history lesson. To remember why extremsits are the greatest threat to all humans. And to remember that the informed are often attacked by uneducated and therefore both emotional and violent extremists.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:47 AM   #41
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I heard some French dude being interviewed for a story on NPR this morning. He said that he felt good seeing pictures of all the buildings around the world lit up in the colors of the French flag, but that those good feelings were tempered by the fact that Paris was the victim of an attack.

So the various forms of expressed solidarity, whether they be lights on buildings or even just public posts on social media do have the positive benefit of making that French dude and probably his fellow countrymen feel just a little bit better. And the "don't forget about me" FB people can feel like they are involved.

After 9/11, I noticed that sometimes the people furthest away from the impact of the events felt more of a need to talk about it than those who were directly involved. Kinda weird, but that's somehow part of the human condition.
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:31 AM   #42
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Social media is the way people communicate with "friends", so it would be natural to go there to commiserate too. The electronic back fence to gossip over.
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Old 11-17-2015, 03:48 PM   #43
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I haven't posted anything about my personal thoughts on facebook, but I have posted lots of links for all my red neck friends to read to try and educate them about who they think is responsible for most of the terrorist activity lately.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:39 PM   #44
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GOP Governors (and 1 Democrat) are running scarred of the Syrians.
... at least until the War on Terror has ended

States Whose Governors Oppose Syrian Refugee Resettlement
NPR - 11/17/15
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/17/456336...yrian-refugees

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Governors in 30 states across the country have now publicly asked
for the resettlement of Syrian refugees to stop until security concerns can be addressed.

Advocates for refugees have sharply criticized the governors' statements.
Alison Parker of Human Rights Watch said,
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"The governors' announcements amount to fear-mongering attempts
to block Syrians from joining the generous religious groups and communities
who step forward to welcome them."
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:05 PM   #45
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They're probably concerned that resettled Syrians would be taking jobs away from our domestic terrorists.
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