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Old 07-21-2019, 05:16 PM   #1
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Apollo 11

Ok how many of you in Cellar-land are of the opinion that it didn’t happen?
Been reading loads from people that think it was all a con, staged and a downright fraud by NASA,
I’m not of that opinion by the way, but I’m curious as to why so many people are.
How can you keep a lid on it for 50+ years and over 400,000 people directly involved for 10 years or more if it was faked?
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Old 07-21-2019, 06:11 PM   #2
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When the lunar lander was firing it's retrorockets to touchdown, it would have melted the green cheese the moon is made of and turned the landing site into a big fondue; yet, nothing that supposedly came back from the moon had cheese on it. The clincher was that when asked, none of the astronauts could identify which wine pairs best with green cheese. Just too many holes in the story to be believable.
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Old 07-21-2019, 08:17 PM   #3
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One sad result of the coincidence of timing is that there will be a set of conspiracy theorists who will think that Trump is the president who got people to the moon.
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:22 PM   #4
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I suspect it's people who were never part of the in-crowd at any place or time, always the last to know the real story. Latching on to a conspiracy theory makes them feel superior the the misled masses. If you think those moon landing deniers are stupid, they don't hold a candle to the flat earthers.
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:52 AM   #5
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If you think those moon landing deniers are stupid, they don't hold a candle to the flat earthers.
Leave us flat earthers out of it.

I damned near fell off the edge the other day and I'd only nipped out for a pint of milk.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:26 AM   #6
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One sad result of the coincidence of timing is that there will be a set of conspiracy theorists who will think that Trump is the president who got people to the moon.
Most people do not know how to separate hearsay from facts. Hypothesis supported by experimental evidence is ignored. Hearsay promoted by targeting an emotional brain (that of a child). Once the emotional person has bought into a myth, then that person will even get angry (ie resort to profanity) when facts and numbers expose that lie.

Saddam's WMDs were a perfect example.

The resulting thought process is called confirmation bias. Once one trusts another, then those lies must be true. No honesty can change their minds.

Same applies to the so many with fears of genetically modified foods. And those who fear child vaccinations. Neither fear is justified by any facts. Confirmation bias is clearly at play. Why would anyone believe a blond bimbo actress with no education who simply read lies from a Doctor. And cannot even admit he was lying when facts say so without doubt? Confirmation bias. She is pretty so she must be trustworthy.

How to separate lies from facts? Facts come with reasons why and perspective - numbers. And many paragraphs of text. Confirmation bias is easily promoted and hardened by emotions such as trust and subjective reasoning. And soundbyte (single sentence) statements.

Confirmation bias also makes reading anything longer than one paragraph difficult. Confirmation bias even makes this too difficult to read. Confirmation bias proves Trump is always right. His tweets routinely are only 140 characters long. So it must be true.
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Old 07-22-2019, 09:12 AM   #7
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And, for those who are "always right" with "facts", Twitter is 280 characters

yup. since 2017
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:11 AM   #8
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Shish kabob.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:40 AM   #9
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Twitter is 280 characters
Tweeter says almost all posts are still less than 140 characters. That additional fact is relevant. For example, wackos extremists, who automatically believe a racist president, are happy with 140 character posts. Since that is sufficient to be knowledgeable. 140 characters is sufficient to justify Nazi, KKK, or white supremacy.

Apparently xoxoxoBruce knowledge base is limited to 70 character. How will Trump tell him truths? Oh. Confirmation bias. He already knows.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:49 AM   #10
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Tony, can you limit tw to 140 character posts?
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Old 07-22-2019, 04:36 PM   #11
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Tony, can you limit tw to 140 character posts?
I do not know how to be brainwashed and uninformed. Sorry. I cannot post like a Trump racist (also called extremist).
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:06 PM   #12
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He says in fewer than 140 characters.
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Old 07-23-2019, 09:45 AM   #13
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He says in fewer than 140 characters.
I was hoping somebody would count. 118 chars.
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Old 07-23-2019, 07:57 PM   #14
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be-bop's original question is answered by "confirmation bias".
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