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Old 05-20-2016, 02:44 PM   #16
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I traded the POS Mitsubishi Sport in on Pete's new Subaru. The anti-lock braking failed a number of times. My guess is the car is too light for its brake system so it locks out the pedal to prevent sliding. That is a shitty feeling standing on the brake with no effect at all. That is what happens when Detroit adds proven tech to cheap-ass cars. So extrapolating to Tesla's tech stick with Tesla on cheap-ass cars give me a mechanical connection I can work with.
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Old 05-20-2016, 03:19 PM   #17
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We superstitious and stupid humans have ALL kinds of concerns and worries that go unanswered... but are simple answers for experts.

I feel like if we asked the people working on GMOs if they were safe, they would say "Did you think we didn't think of that?"
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Old 05-20-2016, 07:03 PM   #18
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You show an unwavering faith in the tech, even from profit seeking source's lowest bidders.
The cars electronics have been taught logic, if car 1 does a, do this, because there is 99.999% chance car1 will also do b and c next. If the computers are running car 1 this is true, but people do illogical things the program can't possibly predict.

Are GMOs safe? Define safe. Alcohol is safe. Aspirin is safe. Many things are safe with caveats. 'Did they think of that', is a non-answer to a non-question. The question is, if Monsanto discovered a long term problem, or even a possible problem, would they disclose it? Even though management's primary concern is the next quarter, and the problem wouldn't arise until their golden parachute has deployed, would they see their moral obligation to the people, like Philip Morris, R.J. Reynolds, and Lorillard?
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:24 PM   #19
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This is what happens when you through people into the mix.

Man Claims His Tesla Model S Crashed Into A Trailer All On Its Own

Or take them out.
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Old 07-11-2016, 06:50 AM   #20
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Seen on Route 270 near Gaithersburg yesterday on a license plate: A TESLA

And it was one of course.
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Old 07-11-2016, 06:53 AM   #21
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Hi Katkeeper.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:00 PM   #22
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Hello! I had this funny desire to drive as close to the car to see what it did in reaction. Drive up behind it to make it go faster for instance. I have a feeling some people will actually try that.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:32 PM   #23
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Sure, it's nice to know you can cut them off with impunity.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:54 PM   #24
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The actual problems will be things we couldn't imagine. Unique failures that were unpredictable.
A recent Tesla fatality involved an unpredictable hazard, as you say (something suddenly turning into the Tesla's path). The technology isn't yet at the point where we can kick back and stream a movie, but it's on its way. Until then we need to copilot.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:57 PM   #25
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I wonder if the engineers put them through tests where other drivers tried to control the Tesla's direction and/or speed with their driving. Tried to cut them off, tried to speed them up. Reminds me of playing with magnets.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:05 PM   #26
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Until then we need to copilot.
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