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Old 02-06-2020, 06:44 PM   #31
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If everyone is "in name only" then it doesn't really say anything when you apply it to a particular person.
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Old 02-06-2020, 08:13 PM   #32
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If everyone is "in name only" then it doesn't really say anything when you apply it to a particular person.
Tell that to all the voters who take R/D ideology seriously, who work overtime to shoehorn themselves and candidates into those boxes.

Those who rule: play the polar game to get, and stay, elected.

Those who are ruled: actually take the poles seriously.
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Old 02-07-2020, 10:10 AM   #33
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Exactly.

Trump is a non-idealogical state-capitalist usin' Repub machinery.

Rand Paul is a consequentialist libertarian usin' Repub machinery.

buhbuhBernie is a communist, er, democratic socislist (state socialist) usin' Dem machinery.

Mitt is a evangelical sumthin' or other usin' Repub mschinery.

Bill & Hill: a hedonist and an opportunist usin' Dem machinery.

Really, as I think on it, conventional Repub/Dem ideology really doesn't mean much for any of the elected folks. It's just labels to them.
The machinery exists to be used.
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Old 02-08-2020, 03:14 PM   #34
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The machinery exists to be used.
By whom, for whom?

(or is it: By who, for who? meh)
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:38 AM   #35
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By whom, for whom?

(or is it: By who, for who? meh)
By politicians, for lobbyists.

And there is not a single federal level politician or appointee that doesn't understand this.
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Old 02-10-2020, 11:38 AM   #36
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By politicians, for lobbyists.

And there is not a single federal level politician or appointee that doesn't understand this.
Strange: I thought it was supposed to be by the people, for the people.
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Old 02-10-2020, 12:05 PM   #37
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That can only happen if the people give a rats ass and participate, but they've delegated that power to the political hacks.
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Old 02-10-2020, 12:09 PM   #38
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What Bruce said.
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Old 02-10-2020, 12:50 PM   #39
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Strange: I thought it was supposed to be by the people, for the people.
I suppose that works, if you also believe in the tooth fairy and the immaculate conception of Ayn Rand.
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Old 02-11-2020, 11:58 AM   #40
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I suppose that works, if you also believe in the tooth fairy and the immaculate conception of Ayn Rand.
you mean the tooth fairy is a lie and ayn didn't descend from heaven?

i am broken
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Old 02-11-2020, 12:00 PM   #41
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That can only happen if the people give a rats ass and participate, but they've delegated that power to the political hacks.
gotta give 'em a reason to give a shit

if everything is provided, folks get fat and stupid

look out your window...or, mebbe, in your mirror...
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:18 AM   #42
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gotta give 'em a reason to give a shit

if everything is provided, folks get fat and stupid

look out your window...or, mebbe, in your mirror...
Balls.

"Everything" is provided, so I can run my department at work without having to spend all my time learning how to install a road, etc, and YOU get to go to work knowing that runoff from our factory isn't going into your drinking water.
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Old 02-12-2020, 11:31 AM   #43
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Balls.

yep, I got a big brassy pair.
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Old 02-12-2020, 11:32 AM   #44
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"Everything" is provided

no

it's paid for
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Old 02-23-2020, 04:51 PM   #45
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Tell that to all the voters who take R/D ideology seriously, who work overtime to shoehorn themselves and candidates into those boxes.

Those who rule: play the polar game to get, and stay, elected.

Those who are ruled: actually take the poles seriously.
I cannot escape a vision of small teams of Ursus maritimus knocking soccer balls around...

C'mon, Henry -- you know full well Ayn Rand, Jewess, crawled out from under Soviet oppression by passenger ship in the 1920's. I guess they hadn't developed refuseniki yet...
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