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Old 08-09-2005, 11:26 AM   #106
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John Denver is unknown in France (at least for me)

Perhaps is less sexy than Britney Spear

www.johndenver.com will tell you all you need to know. He was a cheesy guy who wrote and played cheesy songs for cheesy people.
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:31 AM   #107
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I really like that French band Air. This intrigues me, and I want to look into more French pop. Many of the artists I like say they were influenced by Serge Gainsbourg.
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:50 PM   #108
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John Denver is unknown in France (at least for me)

Perhaps is less sexy than Britney Spear
You don't want to know about John Denver. He's dead, thank God. Forget you ever even heard his name. Here in the US, he's just about everyone's favorite singer to hate. Now Jean Luc Ponty...
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:10 PM   #109
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Here in the US, he's just about everyone's favorite singer to hate.
Oh, I don't know about that. I liked "Poems, Prayers, and Promises" and "Back Home Again".
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:47 PM   #110
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But you forget
- another French, George Mandel. Mandel, birth name : Jerobeam Rothschild
- Colonel Edward M. House and Bernard Baruch important employees of the Rothschild Bank.
- David Lloyd George prime minister of Great-Britain with his counsellor, Sir Philip Sassoon, “descendant in line” (translation OK ?) of Amschel Rothschild.
- Vittorio Emanuele Orlando minister-president of Italia.
- The last but not the least : Thomas Woodrow Wilson, president for the United States .
(You can notice the influence of bank Rotschild)
No, I didn't forget. I never forget the power of bankers and their money to shape the world to their advantage. That's always been true but Wilson's input to the treaty was very small because we were the new kids. We had only been in the war a short time and not considered a major player by the rest of the allies.

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If I was US I’d try to find information about “the Virginia company” because thanks to it, the Britain Crown could always be the owner of United States. It’s an economical power instead of a political domination which is too evident. Is it true ?
The Virginia Company only lasted for about 20 years in the early 1600s before the King yanked their charter and made Virginia a Crown Colony. It was an attempt to financially exploit "The New World" by the Brits just as the French, Spanish, Portugese and even the Vikings had done. 1776 put an end to that attempt, but then and now, the "Money" will cooperate across political boundries to their own benefit.

I'm glad you're smart enough to realize most of this thread was in fun and most of the barbs were directed at other posters rather than France.
Tell me, has France had to face the largest Evil the world has ever known ....WalMart?
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Old 08-09-2005, 06:44 PM   #111
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Oh, I don't know about that. I liked "Poems, Prayers, and Promises" and "Back Home Again".
I said "just about everyone's." And if you promise not to breathe a word to another living soul, I'll admit to a sneaking fondness for "Country Roads," myself.
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:38 PM   #112
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I said "just about everyone's." And if you promise not to breathe a word to another living soul, I'll admit to a sneaking fondness for "Country Roads," myself.
Same here. Although you want to be far away when I sing it in the shower.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:08 AM   #113
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Because of the amount of respect that I have garnered here over the years, I probably should not mention things like wearing out a copy of Rhymes and Reasons, and enjoying some of his sappier tunes ... yes, even that one.

They are all very singable.
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Old 08-10-2005, 06:53 AM   #114
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I really like that French band Air. This intrigues me, and I want to look into more French pop. Many of the artists I like say they were influenced by Serge Gainsbourg.
Serge Gainsbourg : very famous in France
really really wonderful songs, I hope you can find them
French people love him because he was a bad boy always drunk, provocative but very sensitive. He wrote also songs for Jane Birkin (English girl only famous in France ?) and Birgitte Bardot (when she was young !). He was quite ugly but always seduced the most beautiful and famous women.
His lyrics are often based on play on words and poetry. His music is very rich, a lot of different styles.
I think his last songs were “easier”.
Most famous Songs : “Initials BB”, “Je t’aime moi non plus“ (with sexual whisper melt in the music), “Ballade de Melody Nelson”, “Je suis venu te dire que je m’en vais”, “la javanaise“…

Famous also in having said, in a TV French show where Witney Houston was the guest star, that he "wanted to fuck her". She became white for few seconds : What !!!!!

From the 60’s to 80’s there were always in France about the same 20 singers. And French were inhibited compared to US and British music, trying to copy. It wasn’t so good and almost forgot to sing like they before used to.
Now French music is influenced by anglo saxon pop, soul, techno, African, Arabian and Spanish rythm and the French touch… : the result is good.
Since nearly 2000 we've really got plenty of good singers : about 5 to 10 new per year, for us it’s an explosion, in every kind of style.
Exemples : Juliette (French style, humour), Manu Chao (world music, latino), Souad Massi (Algerian, pop, rai, flamenco), Thomas Fersen (French style), Yann Tiersen (music from the film “Amélie from Montmartre”), Lo Jo (world music), Camille (sounds like Bjork), Tiken Jah Fakoli (Coast of Ivory ? african political reggae), Lhasa (French/Spanish/English jazz/world music), Pink Martini (French/US jazz latino), St Germain (album “Tourist”, jazz techno, no lyrics)…

Less recent : Mano Negra (Rock latino), Noir Désir (French pop Rock), Rita mitSouko (French pop rock), Etienne Daho (French pop), I Muvrini (traditional band from Corsica), Renaud (beautiful lyrics, awful voice, made a song against “Miss Maggie”), Bernard Lavilliers (our Bruce Springsteen in spirit with latino-American influences), Laurent Voulzy (album “caché derrière” and others, good pop), Alain Souchon (beautiful lyrics, good pop), Francis Cabrel (soothing French pop Rock ), William Sheller (pop classic, piano), Mylène Farmer (pop quite original and successful), Enzo Enzo (French style), Zazie (pop), Michel Jonasz (Jazz), Claude Nougaro (Jazz + song “Toulouse” !), Jean Jacques Goldman (our national song maker, cautious humanist, the man French people would like to meet once, pop rock), songs of Starmania (“Tycoon”), Air, Daft Punk ……

If you like Serge Gainsbourg’s music, maybe you’ll enjoy “M“ (Matthieu Chedid), Dominique A, Alain Bashung, in a more modern way… and MC Solaar (pop rap)

Our French star : Johnny Hallyday (I think he isn’t original for US people)
Our French god : Charles Aznavour, we can’t say anything bad about this man. Respect.

You can find them on the web. (emule, kasaa, (un)official sites)
Lyrics French songs : http://www.paroles.net/
And French singers with number of songs : clic “La Liste Complète des Interprètes“ :
http://www.paroles.net/artis/*

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You don't want to know about John Denver. He's dead, thank God. Forget you ever even heard his name. Here in the US, he's just about everyone's favorite singer to hate. Now Jean Luc Ponty...
Sorry, Jazz is really a fashion in France but I’m not a specialist despite there’s a little jazz festival in my birth village. I just know St Germain, Michel Petrucciani and some US jazz. An Old album : “Giants of jazz play Brassens”. Georges Brassens, Jacques Brel and Leo Ferré
are our 3 poets in songs, it’s often not really funny nor modern but the lyrics are timeless.

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there were concerns that our green, unbloodied young men would be slaughtered if they weren't FULLY trained - and everyone's definition for that is different. there were many different proposals for ops plans, but in the end it was decided that the best course of action was to wait until the US had trained and equipped (haha) an overwhelming number of GI's to send over to the theater.
I think that real militaries like Eisenhower who said it was technically possible earlier are more qualified for this kind of opinion than politicians like Roosevelt and Churchill. Usually leaders decide and the technical people have to reach the objective.
But I won’t declare the war for that !

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That's always been true but Wilson's input to the treaty was very small because we were the new kids. We had only been in the war a short time and not considered a major player by the rest of the allies.
In my books Wilson is Rotshild’s puppet

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Tell me, has France had to face the largest Evil the world has ever known ....WalMart?
Walmart ? Why ? Is it another joke I never understand ? I’ve just heard the name. I’ve no idea about that.
I hope it’s not worst than Monsanto !


Have you got Alicia Key’s phone number ? or Nora Jones’s ?

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Old 08-10-2005, 08:37 AM   #115
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Thanks for the information!

Many of us admire that film, which is just called Amélie here. Or even Amelie, without the correct accent.
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Old 08-10-2005, 09:53 AM   #116
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Wal-Mart is a chain of warehouse-like stores that sells everything from tires to lettuce to DVDs to rifles. It's cheap, soulless, mass-produced crap, marketed to cheap, soulless, mass-produced people. When a Wal-Mart comes to town, the effect on family-owned businesses is similar to nuclear detonation, only slower. I loathe Wal-Mart, and shop there every week. I'm pretty sure the mark of the Beast will be that stupid smiley face on the commercials.
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Old 08-10-2005, 09:54 AM   #117
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Walmart ? Why ? Is it another joke I never understand ? I’ve just heard the name. I’ve no idea about that.
I hope it’s not worst than Monsanto !
Ooh, that's a poser. Walmart takes normal corporate villainy to the extreme, while Montsano invents new ways to be evil. Walmart is bad for its employees and neighborhood, while Montsano is bad for its customers and their neighbors.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:46 PM   #118
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Thanks for the information!

Many of us admire that film, which is just called Amélie here. Or even Amelie, without the correct accent.
Ooooh, I loved that film! That was just the funniest movie! Remember the part about her kidnapping the garden troll and sending post cards from it at various places around the world?

I like the writer, Collette, too. She was a liberated gal long before the word "feminist" had ever been coined. I read everything of hers I could find. She wrote about LIFE and the wonderful way she lived it outside the bonds of the conventions of her times!

I wish the French wouldn't have given us all those existentialists like Sartre and Camus - very depressing.

French perfume is wonderful, though. Shalimar!

If you ever see a Walmart start to go up in France, blow it up and put the blame on Bin Laden!
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:41 PM   #119
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marichiko said "People ignorant of European history (that means 99.9999999% of all Americans) find it easy to make arrogant assumptions."

That was so funny, milk came out my nose!
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:45 PM   #120
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you'll find the humor wears off shortly.
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