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Old 11-01-2015, 07:43 PM   #241
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Its weird, I bought the Civic in June. It only holds 11 gallons. It also gets 30-35mpg.
I'm also driving a lot less. The savings for me versus my old car has been HUGE.
I also love filling up for only $20.
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Old 11-01-2015, 07:49 PM   #242
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We have these little displays in our elevators at work and they display short snippets. Friday they displayed that consumer spending was down in the last quarter, and they attributed it to cheaper gas.

So maybe people are saving the gas money they aren't spending?
They said on one of those Sunday news programs this morning, that individual saving was way up this last quarter, higher than it's been in years.
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:12 PM   #243
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They said on one of those Sunday news programs this morning, that individual saving was way up this last quarter, higher than it's been in years.
More people are afraid and preparing for the impending collapse
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Old 04-25-2016, 11:36 AM   #244
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Australian Green politician sets river on fire to protest nearby fracking site.


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Old 04-25-2016, 02:13 PM   #245
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The experts say it can be done safely, however the companies who make their money doing it have no incentive to insure they do, until we have a land version of Deepwater Horizon, like Russia's Door of Hell
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Old 05-24-2016, 03:41 PM   #246
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Copying this post here, into Fracking, from Charts and Graphs.

US carbon emissions down 12% since 2005 (source):



Because of natural gas and to a lesser extent renewables, taking over the job of coal (source):



(both sources are eia.gov, US Energy Information Administration)
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Old 05-24-2016, 07:02 PM   #247
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"Energy related carbon dioxide" means electricity generation only, right? This doesn't include cars or home heating, or manufacturing?
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Old 05-24-2016, 07:08 PM   #248
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Let 'em drink beer.
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Old 05-24-2016, 09:37 PM   #249
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No it's confusing because the charts are from two different stories, but the second graph only covers generation while the first "energy-related" means everything relating to, uh, creating energy. As opposed to, I suppose, making concrete or other kinds of CO2 generation.

They have another graph on the "energy-related" story page which explains that the category includes transportation; and emissions from transportation are way down too. It's all good news.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:57 PM   #250
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Fracking has been identified as the reason for earthquakes in the Pawnee and Payne county areas of Oklahoma. More earthquakes now occur here than on the entire west coast US.

A 5.3 quake has just struck. This is a new high for shaking. Currently nothing has been done to limit the disposal of fracking fluids in this ground. This may be a first concern for the 'powers that be' in that state.
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Old 04-16-2020, 10:02 AM   #251
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It occurred to me today that we've heard no horror stories about fracking. No big earthquakes, no ground water contamination, no poisoned watersheds

basically 4 years since we gave a shit

In fact, News generally stopped writing about fracking after 2016 (until recently when they've had economic-related stories about it)
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:26 PM   #252
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No big earthquakes, no ground water contamination, no poisoned watersheds
Until recently, there were maybe four earthquakes every day in the fracking regions of Oklahoma. Curious. Now that fracking gas is unprofitable, those earthquakes in OK have diminished. Only one has happened in the past seven days - on 11 April. In the same location where it happened on 26 March.

Now that fracking wells are not being drilled, those daily earthquakes (magnitude 2.5 or higher) have diminished. There were only 17 earthquakes in OK this past month.

Why have these earthquakes not been reported? It was an almost daily occurrence in OK for years - ever since fracking started. That is no longer news. It is routine.

Meanwhile, Puerto Rico has had well over 100 earthquakes (2.5 or greater) in the past month. Why is that also not news?
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