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Old 01-06-2010, 07:51 PM   #91
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Tomorrow, I will go see it for a second time. First time was 3D version. Second time will be IMAX version. SonofV saw it once before I did so this will be his third tour of duty on Pandora.

The movie is a great piece of filmmaking. Like all movies, it requires a certain suspension of disbelief to enjoy. If this topic/color/method/font presents an obstacle to that suspension, you're enjoyment will be obstructed proportionally. As for the story, as for the character development, as for the realism, please. I expected to be entertained, and it exceeded my expectations. What expectations to do you have when you go to the movies?
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:14 PM   #92
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Ok. I'm glad you explained that again, 'cause that's not how I read this:
Oh, that's an easy fix. Read the full post, not just the second part. Here:
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I’m not trying to be non-conformist, I simply don’t think I can enjoy the movie when the act of watching it has been forced to be an analysis of what I am seeing on the screen versus the expectations created by an unrelenting, overly specific media campaign. The entire movie will be an out-of-the-moment experience. A meta-movie, about itself.

That, and when I actually saw a preview of the movie, it looked dumb. The recently-reformed, reluctant hero fights against impossible odds to save the idyllic utopian society from being destroyed by the military-industrial, shoot-em-up bad guys? Wow. My life won’t be complete until I see how that turns out.
See? Two different points. You are correct in noticing that if you chop the post in half, half of it will be missing.
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:52 PM   #93
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"they" force fed you an unrelenting media campaign, Flint? maybe it's time to turn off the tv/radio/MSM for a bit. you pride yourself on your ability to think for yourself. Good. Simple negation is not thinking though. It's just the "no game". Surely, as the father of a couple toddlers you recognize it. Getting back in touch with your inner toddler Flint?
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:01 PM   #94
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I guess I'm not explaining this very well. But anyone else that feels like preaching at me can fuck right off.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:13 PM   #95
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voice from on high Flint....FLINT.... Thou shall stand thy ground and not be swayed by scifi geeks! /end voice from on high
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:23 PM   #96
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For the record I only saw/heard a handful media pieces/interviews etc. regarding this movie, but considering the extremely little exposure to media outlets I have, I thought this was an outrageous result from such a small sample size. Of note was that everything I heard was harping on the same, very specific message about what was so great about this movie. As I said, it would make watching the movie an exercise in comparing "the message" to what is happening on the screen. Constantly, as every event unfolds in the story I am supposed to be immersed in, I would be thinking "Did they execute that as described? Did they achieve the results they promised they would?" I can't un-do that, I can't un-know the things I have heard. AND, once all of this was irreversibly set in place, I actually saw a preview of the film, and... IT LOOKS DUMB AS HELL AND COMPLETELY UNAPPEALING IN ANY CONCEIVABE WAY. Now you tell me: why in God's name would I think I HAVE TO watch this movie? This is ludicrous and you can all fuck off.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:27 PM   #97
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Peer pressure.





No, wait, I've got it... a large breasted housemate insists.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:20 AM   #98
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We are going to see it in 2 hours. In 3D not IMAX. I have reservations, but I have not been to the theater in over 6 months so we will see. I would rather see Invictus.
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No, wait, I've got it... a large breasted housemate insists.
Where has the large breasted housemate been lately?
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:07 PM   #100
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Oh, that's an easy fix. Read the full post, not just the second part. Here: See? Two different points. You are correct in noticing that if you chop the post in half, half of it will be missing.
Yabbut it was the second point I had a problem with. Knowing-the-story = movie bad. I don't buy it. But I respect your right to miss a kickass scifi movie.

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Old 01-07-2010, 01:11 PM   #101
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But I respect your right to miss a kickass scifi movie.
nerdiness/It's "SF" -- NEVER "scifi"/nerdiness
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:27 PM   #102
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Knowing-the-story = movie bad.
It wasn't so much that the story looked predictable (that's any movie, pretty much) but that the story looked dumb.
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The world needs curmudgeons too.

Hey! You kids get offa his lawn.
When I first announced "I will never see this movie." my wife said I was like a grumpy old man. But after we saw the preview, she agreed with me.

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nerdiness/It's "SF" -- NEVER "scifi"/nerdiness
Don't you mean Syfy???
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:30 PM   #103
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nerdiness/It's "SF" -- NEVER "scifi"/nerdiness
I'll see your nerdiness and raise you one geekiness. I grew up reading asimov, clarke, and heinlein. I've continued to read scifi and watch scifi throughout my life. In all my conversations with other geeks, sf and scifi have been interchangeable.

syfy is, however, completely hokey.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:32 PM   #104
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absolutely not to Flint. and Dar, sorry, but you've been talking to the wrong people. "Scifi" may be semi acceptable now, but it never was in the past to true fans. I believe we've talked about this before.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:38 PM   #105
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We may as well use the original term, scientifiction.
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