Your American Masters

Trilby · 07-28-2006, 10:53 AM

I've been reading some online newspapers today--UK's the Guardian and the London Times, a couple of papers from Israel and Lebanon and I've come to this disheartening conclusion: Everybody sees the US as the Evil Master--even Israel, even England. You should read some of the comments on these papers blogs to get a good sense of no matter what the US does, it is wrong, evil, manipulative, trying to keep them down, etc, etc. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO! If we send humanitarian aid, we are being braggarts, if we don't-we're selfish bastards. To me, it looks like the only way to win a war is the way it was done in WWII. These PC wars do nothing but grow the extremist population. Israel thinks we've been defeated in Iraq and want them to finish the job we couldn't by "getting" them to fight Hezbollah! Lordy, lordy...

Spexxvet · 07-28-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

... no matter what the US does, it is wrong, evil, manipulative, trying to keep them down, etc, etc. ...

That's only policies initiated by conservative republican fundamentalist Christians.

There's a theory that we take the hit for everything because we're the only remaining superpower. Who knows?

This is a good reason to be isolationist. We should become self-sufficient and remove ourselves from the world scene. Perhaps then we'll be more appreciated.

MaggieL · 07-28-2006, 11:31 AM

Not all the newspapers in the UK are so leftist...just a lot of them. Read Google News for a while and you begin to find out who's who.

07-28-2006, 11:38 AM

I say it all the time, we are "evil" when we "police the world" and then we are "evil" when we "refuse to police the world". They don't know what they want other than someone who is not afraid to make a decision to blame.
It's called envy, see the following.
Again, as always, don't use our jack, don't take our aid, don't use our technology (in any field), don't ask us to bail your ass out of any situation, don't come here for heart, brain surgery, vacation or retirement or send your kids to school here, don't come here to work so you can buy a home in your broke-ass country instead of staying there an fixing it yourself.... don't, don't, don't do shit with the US... THEN you won't have shit to complain about.
It's easy.

Beestie · 07-28-2006, 02:20 PM

Its lonely at the top. But eventually, it'll be someone else's turn and the world will long for the good old days of being America's beyotch.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-28-2006, 07:34 PM

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To me, it looks like the only way to win a war is the way it was done in WWII.

We can't do that unless we're fighting a country, an army, with uniforms, and little civilian involvement. That doesn't happen anymore.

If it did, we'd have Gulf War I again. Even wackos know better than to tug on Superman's cape.

Ibby · 07-29-2006, 12:12 AM

Or spit into the wind.
Or pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger.

Aliantha · 07-30-2006, 10:47 PM

As Beestie put it, sooner or later someone else will be the super power and then everyone will forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...so don't stress out too much.

I'm just glad little old Australia wont ever have to worry about being in that position.

Griff · 07-31-2006, 05:54 AM

Of course we're still picking up after the British...

Trilby · 07-31-2006, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Of course we're still picking up after the British...

And the French...

Trilby · 07-31-2006, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

As Beestie put it, sooner or later someone else will be the super power and then everyone will forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...so don't stress out too much.

I'm just glad little old Australia wont ever have to worry about being in that position.

Who's your pick, Aliantha? Iran? China?

And no faith in your home team? For shame.

Trilby · 07-31-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...

So long as your interested in history, let's not forget that after the Huns and Visigoths and all those other lovely people conqured Rome and the surrounding civilizations that the European world was plunged into 1,000 years of darkness. And life was nasty, brutish and short. Yay!

Aliantha · 08-02-2006, 09:03 PM

Brianna...I'd lay odds on China. Seems to me they're biding their time the last couple of decades.

They'll come into power as a developing nation and leave it as a decaying one...just as most of the powers in the past have.

But what would I know?

I live in a country where there's less than 25 million residents. Very small in comparison to most others...cept New Zealand, and we all know they don't count.

The population would have to explode for us to even have the man power to rule the world, let alone the guts and mustard required to do so. Don't get me wrong though, I think my country is the best in the world and I pity you all for not living here. You just don't know what you're missing.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-02-2006, 11:11 PM

I know what we're not missing....water.

Aliantha · 08-05-2006, 04:55 AM

Well, when you live in a country that's over 70% desert, water is always going to be in short supply.

07-28-2006, 10:53 AM	#1
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Your American Masters I've been reading some online newspapers today--UK's the Guardian and the London Times, a couple of papers from Israel and Lebanon and I've come to this disheartening conclusion: Everybody sees the US as the Evil Master--even Israel, even England. You should read some of the comments on these papers blogs to get a good sense of no matter what the US does, it is wrong, evil, manipulative, trying to keep them down, etc, etc. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO! If we send humanitarian aid, we are being braggarts, if we don't-we're selfish bastards. To me, it looks like the only way to win a war is the way it was done in WWII. These PC wars do nothing but grow the extremist population. Israel thinks we've been defeated in Iraq and want them to finish the job we couldn't by "getting" them to fight Hezbollah! Lordy, lordy... __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

07-28-2006, 11:31 AM	#3
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	Not all the newspapers in the UK are so leftist...just a lot of them. Read Google News for a while and you begin to find out who's who. __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

07-28-2006, 02:20 PM	#5
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	Its lonely at the top. But eventually, it'll be someone else's turn and the world will long for the good old days of being America's beyotch. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

07-29-2006, 12:12 AM	#7
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Or spit into the wind. Or pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

07-30-2006, 10:47 PM	#8
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	As Beestie put it, sooner or later someone else will be the super power and then everyone will forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...so don't stress out too much. I'm just glad little old Australia wont ever have to worry about being in that position. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

07-28-2006, 11:38 AM	#4
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I say it all the time, we are "evil" when we "police the world" and then we are "evil" when we "refuse to police the world". They don't know what they want other than someone who is not afraid to make a decision to blame. It's called *envy, see the following. Again, as always, don't use our jack, don't take our aid, don't use our technology (in any field), don't ask us to bail your ass out of any* situation, don't come here for heart, brain surgery, vacation or retirement or send your kids to school here, don't come here to work so you can buy a home in your broke-ass country instead of staying there an fixing it yourself.... don't, don't, don't do shit with the US... *THEN* you won't have shit to complain about. It's easy.

07-31-2006, 05:54 AM	#9
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Of course we're still picking up after the British... __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-02-2006, 09:03 PM	#13
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Brianna...I'd lay odds on China. Seems to me they're biding their time the last couple of decades. They'll come into power as a developing nation and leave it as a decaying one...just as most of the powers in the past have. But what would I know? I live in a country where there's less than 25 million residents. Very small in comparison to most others...cept New Zealand, and we all know they don't count. The population would have to explode for us to even have the man power to rule the world, let alone the guts and mustard required to do so. Don't get me wrong though, I think my country is the best in the world and I pity you all for not living here. You just don't know what you're missing. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

08-02-2006, 11:11 PM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I know what we're not missing....water. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-05-2006, 04:55 AM	#15
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well, when you live in a country that's over 70% desert, water is always going to be in short supply. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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