The Great Humanitarian Debacle of 2010

Flint · 12-17-2010, 10:56 PM

The funny thing is, if everyone would just act normal, there would be no problem.

We don't have to agree with everyone and we don't have to like everyone. But we can learn to act like adults, and treat each other like adults.

I suggest everyone give that a shot, and forget about this nonsense. This is like a room full of lunatics arguing about what kind of cheese the moon is made out of. The answer is: who cares?

Flint · 12-17-2010, 11:12 PM

Testing this message for tone. In reference to: a recent spate of passive-aggressive Facebook posts, emails etc. professed to be an attempt to "bring everybody together" while (whoops) actually just greatly exacerbating the situation (long-standing family drama).

DanaC · 12-18-2010, 05:40 AM

Oh God. Bloody Facebook.

I rarely go on. Partly because when i do, there's usually a backlog of messages to respond to; most of which are responses to messages I sent out the previous visit (several months earlie). By the time I've worked through the backlog and apologised to various people for vanishing mid-conversation; I am sick of Facebook and I don;t go back for another 3 months. Rinse and repeat :P

But part of the reason i don't like Facebook, is that a lot of my extended family are on there. I keep hearing through the grapevine of this fall-out, and that argument; this person who is upset about that photo being posted; that person who has left a pointed status message making clear clear they're pissed off with that person. People being way too bloody open and honest on a site frequented by both family and stangers. He said, she saids, all over the fucking place. Old family feuds resurfacing.

*shakes head*

Thanks, but no thanks.

Lamplighter · 12-18-2010, 08:20 AM

Dana, I think I understand and agree completely.

There's only one aspect of FB that we grand-parents like, and
it relies on just what you are talking about.
FB lets us keep up a little with the daily high and low, earth-shaking emotions
in the lives of our high-school and college age G-kids.

I remember how utterly boring it was for me to visit G-parents,
and I certainly was not about sharing every detail of my life with them.
But FB is the new (legal/acceptable) eave-dropping tool for the elders.

It's utterly amazing the naivete of young people,
and what they are willing to put up on FB for others to see.
Plus, sometimes they do come across some great links !

There just needs to be a way to archive snatches of FB,
so the kids can be teased later on when they've grown up a bit.

And yes, we (adult) Dwellars do seem to expose a lot of details about our own lives.

Clodfobble · 12-18-2010, 08:51 AM

In response to your implied question, Flint, yes I think the tone of the message is fine, and comes off as being above the fray without being condescending.

limey · 12-18-2010, 09:08 AM

I agree with Clod. I'm in the middle of a similar shit-storm, though fortunately not on Facebook.

Griff · 12-18-2010, 09:20 AM

I cannot imagine my family on Macebook... hmmm... they probably are.

Flint's message is worth a shot but remember some people want to be upset and will be upset.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-18-2010, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

There just needs to be a way to archive snatches of FB,
so the kids can be teased later on when they've grown up a bit.

Screen grab, cross filed by name, subject, date and possibly level of embarrassment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

Flint's message is worth a shot but remember some people want to be upset and will be upset.

And when things simmer down, use him as reason/target to stir shit up again. Out, out damn FB.

Aliantha · 12-19-2010, 08:24 PM

I love FB for keeping up with my family. We don't really have internal squabbles though, and if people get the shits with each other, it normally stays private and no one takes sides.

I'm pretty lucky to have the family I do though. There aren't many around like it.

Flint · 12-19-2010, 09:07 PM

Just to clarify a few things...

I'm not even on Facebook, but my wife is.

She uses it legitimately to keep up with people.

I probably will ignore the bullcrap and not validate it by even replying.

If I did say anything, I think it would be, simply "We don't have to agree with everyone and we don't have to like everyone; but we can learn to act like adults, and treat each other like adults." and if anyone found a way to take offense to that, then ƒuck 'em.

TheMercenary · 12-22-2010, 08:08 AM

And all this time I thought you were talking about the Cellar.

12-17-2010, 10:56 PM	#1
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	The Great Humanitarian Debacle of 2010 The funny thing is, if everyone would just act normal, there would be no problem. We don't have to agree with everyone and we don't have to like everyone. But we can learn to act like adults, and treat each other like adults. I suggest everyone give that a shot, and forget about this nonsense. This is like a room full of lunatics arguing about what kind of cheese the moon is made out of. The answer is: who cares? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio** Last edited by Flint; 12-17-2010 at 11:18 PM.

12-17-2010, 11:12 PM	#2
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Testing this message for tone. In reference to: a recent spate of passive-aggressive Facebook posts, emails etc. professed to be an attempt to "bring everybody together" while (whoops) actually just greatly exacerbating the situation (long-standing family drama). __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio** Last edited by Flint; 12-17-2010 at 11:24 PM.

12-18-2010, 08:51 AM	#5
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	In response to your implied question, Flint, yes I think the tone of the message is fine, and comes off as being above the fray without being condescending. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

12-18-2010, 09:08 AM	#6
limey Encroaching on your decrees Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An island within the south-west coast of Scotland Posts: 7,016	I agree with Clod. I'm in the middle of a similar shit-storm, though fortunately not on Facebook. __________________ Living it up on the edge ... of civilisation, within the southwest coast of

12-18-2010, 09:20 AM	#7
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I cannot imagine my family on Macebook... hmmm... they probably are. Flint's message is worth a shot but remember some people want to be upset and will be upset. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-18-2010, 08:20 AM	#4
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Dana, I think I understand and agree completely. There's only one aspect of FB that we grand-parents like, and it relies on just what you are talking about. FB lets us keep up a little with the daily high and low, earth-shaking emotions in the lives of our high-school and college age G-kids. I remember how utterly boring it was for me to visit G-parents, and I certainly was not about sharing every detail of my life with them. But FB is the new (legal/acceptable) eave-dropping tool for the elders. It's utterly amazing the naivete of young people, and what they are willing to put up on FB for others to see. Plus, sometimes they do come across some great links ! There just needs to be a way to archive snatches of FB, so the kids can be teased later on when they've grown up a bit. And yes, we (adult) Dwellars do seem to expose a lot of details about our own lives.

12-19-2010, 08:24 PM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I love FB for keeping up with my family. We don't really have internal squabbles though, and if people get the shits with each other, it normally stays private and no one takes sides. I'm pretty lucky to have the family I do though. There aren't many around like it. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-19-2010, 09:07 PM	#10
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Just to clarify a few things... I'm not even on Facebook, but my wife is. She uses it legitimately to keep up with people. I probably will ignore the bullcrap and not validate it by even replying. If I did say anything, I think it would be, simply "We don't have to agree with everyone and we don't have to like everyone; but we can learn to act like adults, and treat each other like adults." and if anyone found a way to take offense to that, then ƒuck 'em. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

12-22-2010, 08:08 AM	#11
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	And all this time I thought you were talking about the Cellar. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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