Bringing the serious smackdown

Undertoad · 03-29-2003, 11:01 PM

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=2471789

I am not a religious man, but Holy Mother Of Christ.

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When U.S. tanks rumbled into this town on the Euphrates river, irregular Iraqi forces set up sniper nests up and down the main street, opening fire from doors, windows, market stalls and patches of open ground...

The officers said the tank unit fired two 120 mm high velocity depleted uranium rounds straight down the main road, creating a powerful vacuum that literally sucked guerrillas out from their hideaways into the street, where they were shot down by small arms fire or run over by the tanks.

"It was mad chaos like you cannot imagine," said the tank unit's commander, who identified himself as "Cobra 6" as he did not want friends and neighbors back home to know what he had been through.

"We took a lot of fire, and we gave a lot of fire," he said.

"You couldn't see anything except all those hues of red and the sound of fire from all sides. It was not earthly. I'll have nightmares about it."

Dozens of bodies still littered the streets on Saturday.

Some were wrapped in blue and black body bags, but others were still out in the open, rotting in the midday sun. Several spilled out of their charred and shattered cars and trucks, burned beyond recognition.

I am not a religious man, but Holy Mother Of Fucking Christ.

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Some U.S. soldiers estimate that at least 1,000 Iraqis were killed here since the fighting began at dusk on Wednesday, and everyone puts the number in the hundreds.

Officers say just one U.S. soldier has died.

1000 to 1. Another battle was 500-750 to 0.

What was it about those Iraqi tactics that you admired so much tw?

Uryoces · 04-03-2003, 07:38 PM

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irregular Iraqi forces set up sniper nests up and down the main street, opening fire from doors, windows, market stalls and patches of open ground...

Get those Iraqis some Metamucil...

Once again, Uryoces misses the point

Regardless of whether Rumsfeld assists or hinders the process, we have many, many Yuppy Food Coupons, Dead Presidents, and Bio-Survival Units to throw at this problem. We'll win. But when we win, I hope we win.

Nothing But Net · 04-03-2003, 08:03 PM

This impressed me the most:

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The officers said the tank unit fired two 120 mm high velocity depleted uranium rounds straight down the main road, creating a powerful vacuum that literally sucked guerrillas out from their hideaways into the street, where they were shot down by small arms fire or run over by the tanks.

Holy shit! I would have paid to see that.

Wouldn't 'Sucked Guerrillas' be an excellent name for a rock band?

warch · 04-03-2003, 08:53 PM

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Holy shit! I would have paid to see that.

I suggest you hustle down to your nearest recruiter, so as not to miss the fun and excitement. Cool.

jaguar · 04-03-2003, 08:56 PM

That's pretty fucking insane, where the hell did they pick up that technique, im mean you don't hear about the 'ol use-a-shell-doing-mach5-to-suck-everything-out-of-the-buildings technique do you? Someone's going to get a medal.

wolf · 04-03-2003, 10:03 PM

I read a report today (darned if I can remember where ... might have been something off the townhall.com commentary site, I was spending the morning clearing my email backlog) that during WWII 400 Americans were killed PER DAY of fighting. In Korea and Vietnam, the average was around 200/day.

Looks like we are WELL underf the curve here.

Technology is our friend.

Griff · 04-04-2003, 03:58 PM

hmmm... so here's the thing, I don't buy it. I'm thinking the reporter was set aboard a raft of shit by a tank commander who was prudent enough not to get his name in the story.

Uryoces · 04-05-2003, 01:49 AM

Good God! I'm laughing my ass off, and I cannot stop! Wyle E. Coyote in the Canyon. They'll drop blocks of concrete on the tanks if they retreat into Baghdad. Precision guided rocks. I would have never thought of that in a million years!

Man, I'm just waiting for the brass-seeking fruit bats fitted with incendiary devices.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-05-2003, 05:11 PM

Have to agree with Griff. Pretty hard to believe. You sure they didn't yell "Hey Muhammed" at the same time.

wolf · 04-06-2003, 01:56 PM

Hmmm ... so if the concrete bombs are painted blue so you don't confuse them with real bombs ... does that mean that the UN practice of painting their stuff blue is so that they don't get confused for a real government?

(the question had to be asked)

tw · 04-06-2003, 10:01 PM

A more relevant number - war will cost somewhere between $60,000 and $100,000 per liberated person. This does not include depreciation of the capital equipment used to deliver the war. Ironic that so many still don't want to be liberated. If they only knew how much we were investing in them. For all that violence and debacuhery, there still remains little interest among the 'victims' in being liberated.

We accomplished the same thing at far less costs in Serbia. But our primary weapons system was actually more intelligent - Richard Holbrook. There are those who accomplish same thing with negotiation backed by force - because a smoking gun exists. And then there are the street bullies who only understand solutions using force and don't need no stinkin' smokin' gun.

Love the thrill and excitement of blatant and extravagent force. Cannot get enough of it and wish I could see more of the action - uneditted. That is the side who loves tactical information. Then there is the other side who knows how foolish and unnecessary all this force could have been.

But then it is only money. Republicans, more than Democrats, love to spend money - once propaganda is eliminated.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-06-2003, 10:11 PM

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(the question had to be asked)

Well maybe not, but I'm sure glad you did!!

Torrere · 04-06-2003, 10:45 PM

That most have been one hellishly powerful vacuum. I don't buy it.

zippyt · 04-07-2003, 01:12 AM

I am impressed with this whole idea of conereet bombs . Hell why spend millions every time we fling a bomb , why not hunderds .
But then if we can place a bomb in a man hole from 10,000 ft why do we need 1,000 lb bombs to bust tanks ??? Why not 25 or 50 lb bombs guided better ???
A little back ground on me , EX USMC anti tank/assult gunner , (and no i never saw any action just LOTS of training )
I have seen what a well placed shot with the right war head (6.5 lb shaped charge ) can do . It is TRULY devastating !!!!!!!

jaguar · 04-07-2003, 01:36 AM

you know dropping a decent sized lump of concrete onto a tank from 10000 feet probably would be pretty effective....

04-03-2003, 08:56 PM	#5
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	That's pretty fucking insane, where the hell did they pick up that technique, im mean you don't hear about the 'ol use-a-shell-doing-mach5-to-suck-everything-out-of-the-buildings technique do you? Someone's going to get a medal. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

04-03-2003, 10:03 PM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I read a report today (darned if I can remember where ... might have been something off the townhall.com commentary site, I was spending the morning clearing my email backlog) that during WWII 400 Americans were killed PER DAY of fighting. In Korea and Vietnam, the average was around 200/day. Looks like we are WELL underf the curve here. Technology is our friend. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-04-2003, 03:58 PM	#7
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	hmmm... so here's the thing, I don't buy it. I'm thinking the reporter was set aboard a raft of shit by a tank commander who was prudent enough not to get his name in the story. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

04-05-2003, 01:49 AM	#8
Uryoces 2nd Covenant, yo Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pugetropolis Posts: 583	Good God! I'm laughing my ass off, and I cannot stop! Wyle E. Coyote in the Canyon. They'll drop blocks of concrete on the tanks if they retreat into Baghdad. Precision guided rocks. I would have never thought of that in a million years! Man, I'm just waiting for the brass-seeking fruit bats fitted with incendiary devices. __________________ The party's over ... the drink ... and the luck ... ran out.

04-05-2003, 05:11 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Have to agree with Griff. Pretty hard to believe. You sure they didn't yell "Hey Muhammed" at the same time. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-06-2003, 01:56 PM	#10
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Hmmm ... so if the concrete bombs are painted blue so you don't confuse them with real bombs ... does that mean that the UN practice of painting their stuff blue is so that they don't get confused for a real government? (the question had to be asked) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-06-2003, 10:01 PM	#11
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	A more relevant number - war will cost somewhere between $60,000 and $100,000 per liberated person. This does not include depreciation of the capital equipment used to deliver the war. Ironic that so many still don't want to be liberated. If they only knew how much we were investing in them. For all that violence and debacuhery, there still remains little interest among the 'victims' in being liberated. We accomplished the same thing at far less costs in Serbia. But our primary weapons system was actually more intelligent - Richard Holbrook. There are those who accomplish same thing with negotiation backed by force - because a smoking gun exists. And then there are the street bullies who only understand solutions using force and don't need no stinkin' smokin' gun. Love the thrill and excitement of blatant and extravagent force. Cannot get enough of it and wish I could see more of the action - uneditted. That is the side who loves tactical information. Then there is the other side who knows how foolish and unnecessary all this force could have been. But then it is only money. Republicans, more than Democrats, love to spend money - once propaganda is eliminated.

04-06-2003, 10:45 PM	#13
Torrere a real smartass Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,121	That most have been one hellishly powerful vacuum. I don't buy it.

04-07-2003, 01:12 AM	#14
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	I am impressed with this whole idea of conereet bombs . Hell why spend millions every time we fling a bomb , why not hunderds . But then if we can place a bomb in a man hole from 10,000 ft why do we need 1,000 lb bombs to bust tanks ??? Why not 25 or 50 lb bombs guided better ??? A little back ground on me , EX USMC anti tank/assult gunner , (and no i never saw any action just LOTS of training ) I have seen what a well placed shot with the right war head (6.5 lb shaped charge ) can do . It is TRULY devastating !!!!!!! Attached Images __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

04-07-2003, 01:36 AM	#15
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	you know dropping a decent sized lump of concrete onto a tank from 10000 feet probably would be pretty effective.... __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

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