Internet Killed the Papermakers...?

monster · 09-02-2016, 07:53 PM

Are there things you still prefer to do with hard paper rather than electronically? I saw an article about Americans still preferring real books over reading from a screen, and we just bought our college student a laser printer because she prefers to read long documents from paper...

monster · 09-02-2016, 07:58 PM

ugh I was trying to do a poll, but I give up. Here are the options, feel free to add more:

Which of these do you prefer to do paper/hard copy rather than on a screen/online?

1) Read a book/long article
2) Receive Bills/Receipts
3) Pay bills
4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes
5) Maintain a calendar/diary
6) Send copies of important documents
7) File Taxes
8) Communicate with family and friends
9) Use coupons

lumberjim · 09-02-2016, 08:02 PM

Amanda vastly prefers real books. I'd rather listen to an audio book.

As for the other end, my handwriting has gone to shit. I can't remember when the last time I wrote a late letter. Probably some thing we did on here.... Email gets there instantly and legibly.

footfootfoot · 09-02-2016, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster

Which of these do you prefer to do paper/hard copy rather than on a screen/online?

Bold = paper
italic = internet

1) Read a book/long article
2) Receive Bills/Receipts

3) Pay bills

4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes
5) Maintain a calendar/diary

6) Send copies of important documents

7) File Taxes
8) Communicate with family and friends
9) Use coupons

Undertoad · 09-02-2016, 09:09 PM

Bold = paper
italic = internet

1) Read a book/long article
2) Receive Bills/Receipts
3) Pay bills
4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes
5) Maintain a calendar/diary
6) Send copies of important documents
7) File Taxes
8) Communicate with family and friends
9) Use coupons

lumberjim · 09-02-2016, 09:22 PM

I'm all italics

xoxoxoBruce · 09-02-2016, 10:02 PM

No matter how much to push the envelope, it's still stationary.

Clodfobble · 09-02-2016, 10:49 PM

Bold = paper

1) Read a book/long article
2) Receive Bills/Receipts
3) Pay bills
4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes
5) Maintain a calendar/diary
6) Send copies of important documents
7) File Taxes
8) Communicate with family and friends
~~9) Use coupons~~ I don't do this at all. They don't give coupons for plain produce and meat.

glatt · 09-03-2016, 07:13 AM

The other morning, the network was down on my floor at work. A fried switch. We had to wait about 5 hours for a replacement to show up and be installed. Couldn't even make a phone call.
After cleaning my desk and filing away a bunch of papers, I started writing letters to acquaintances my cousin had before he died. I didn't have email addresses for then and had planned to type up a note that I could address and sign for each of them. But I hand wrote seven notes to them instead. My office mates were laughing at me (good naturedly) that I had resorted to passing time by writing letters. But I think it was a nice touch. I hadn't written a letter by hand in years.

Taxes are always electronic.
Email is too.
Calendar is both.
Everything else is paper.

Griff · 09-03-2016, 07:54 AM

1) Read a book/long article
2) Receive Bills/Receipts
3) Pay bills
4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes
5) Maintain a calendar/diary
6) Send copies of important documents
7) File Taxes
8) Communicate with family and friends
9) Use coupons

tw · 09-03-2016, 08:53 AM

Research indicates reading comprehension on electronics devices is less. Many theories have been proposed. But research makes obvious that comprehension is less on electronic screens.

I observed same. For example, an article that describes complex electronic theory (ie how cell reception works) basically provided no useful comprehension. That may be due to graphs and pictures on a different electronic page whereas same are on one big sheet of paper. But I notice more complex articles (even on economics) are mostly uncomprehendible on electronics. I also print them on paper.

lumberjim · 09-03-2016, 09:06 AM

So maybe print out what UT said about Comcast so you remember if it comes up again

classicman · 09-03-2016, 09:17 AM

Research indicates reading comprehension on lost paper notes is less. Research further substantiates that reading multiple times is best either on electronic devices or paper, but infinitely better when able to reread which is impossible on lost or damaged paper notes. Hoarders gonna hoard

classicman · 09-03-2016, 09:19 AM

Bold = Paper
1) Read a book/long article
2) Receive Bills/Receipts
3) Pay bills
4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes
5) Maintain a calendar/diary
6) Send copies of important documents
7) File Taxes
8) Communicate with family and friends

orthodoc · 09-03-2016, 09:45 AM

Bold = paper

1. Read a book/long article
2. Receive bills/receipts
3. Pay bills
4. Keep to-do lists/notes
5. Maintain a calendar/diary - actually I use both, for different types of calendars.
6. Send copies of important documents
7. File taxes
8. Communicate with family and friends

Reading light fiction electronically is no problem - it's linear in structure and doesn't demand cross-referencing. When it comes to scientific/medical information, textbooks, cookbooks, basically anything with actual information rather than a story, paper is by far my preference. And some fiction - the type that demands thought and sometimes a look back at earlier pages, is also best on paper. I use electronic means for everyday tasks and communication, but I think permanent storage or organization of information should be on paper.

09-02-2016, 07:53 PM	#1
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Internet Killed the Papermakers...? Are there things you still prefer to do with hard paper rather than electronically? I saw an article about Americans still preferring real books over reading from a screen, and we just bought our college student a laser printer because she prefers to read long documents from paper... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-02-2016, 07:58 PM	#2
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	ugh I was trying to do a poll, but I give up. Here are the options, feel free to add more: Which of these do you prefer to do paper/hard copy rather than on a screen/online? 1) Read a book/long article 2) Receive Bills/Receipts 3) Pay bills 4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes 5) Maintain a calendar/diary 6) Send copies of important documents 7) File Taxes 8) Communicate with family and friends 9) Use coupons __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-02-2016, 08:02 PM	#3
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Amanda vastly prefers real books. I'd rather listen to an audio book. As for the other end, my handwriting has gone to shit. I can't remember when the last time I wrote a late letter. Probably some thing we did on here.... Email gets there instantly and legibly. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

09-02-2016, 09:22 PM	#6
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I'm all italics __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

09-02-2016, 10:02 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No matter how much to push the envelope, it's still stationary. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-02-2016, 09:09 PM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Bold = paper italic = internet 1) Read a book/long article 2) Receive Bills/Receipts 3) Pay bills 4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes 5) Maintain a calendar/diary 6) Send copies of important documents 7) File Taxes 8) Communicate with family and friends 9) Use coupons

09-02-2016, 10:49 PM	#8
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Bold = paper 1) Read a book/long article 2) Receive Bills/Receipts 3) Pay bills 4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes 5) Maintain a calendar/diary 6) Send copies of important documents 7) File Taxes 8) Communicate with family and friends ~~9) Use coupons~~ I don't do this at all. They don't give coupons for plain produce and meat. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

09-03-2016, 07:13 AM	#9
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	The other morning, the network was down on my floor at work. A fried switch. We had to wait about 5 hours for a replacement to show up and be installed. Couldn't even make a phone call. After cleaning my desk and filing away a bunch of papers, I started writing letters to acquaintances my cousin had before he died. I didn't have email addresses for then and had planned to type up a note that I could address and sign for each of them. But I hand wrote seven notes to them instead. My office mates were laughing at me (good naturedly) that I had resorted to passing time by writing letters. But I think it was a nice touch. I hadn't written a letter by hand in years. Taxes are always electronic. Email is too. Calendar is both. Everything else is paper.

09-03-2016, 07:54 AM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	1) Read a book/long article 2) Receive Bills/Receipts 3) Pay bills 4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes 5) Maintain a calendar/diary 6) Send copies of important documents 7) File Taxes 8) Communicate with family and friends 9) Use coupons __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

09-03-2016, 08:53 AM	#11
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Research indicates reading comprehension on electronics devices is less. Many theories have been proposed. But research makes obvious that comprehension is less on electronic screens. I observed same. For example, an article that describes complex electronic theory (ie how cell reception works) basically provided no useful comprehension. That may be due to graphs and pictures on a different electronic page whereas same are on one big sheet of paper. But I notice more complex articles (even on economics) are mostly uncomprehendible on electronics. I also print them on paper.

09-03-2016, 09:06 AM	#12
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	So maybe print out what UT said about Comcast so you remember if it comes up again __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

09-03-2016, 09:17 AM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Research indicates reading comprehension on lost paper notes is less. Research further substantiates that reading multiple times is best either on electronic devices or paper, but infinitely better when able to reread which is impossible on lost or damaged paper notes. Hoarders gonna hoard Attached Images __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

09-03-2016, 09:19 AM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Bold = Paper 1) Read a book/long article 2) Receive Bills/Receipts 3) Pay bills 4) keep "To-Do" lists/notes 5) Maintain a calendar/diary 6) Send copies of important documents 7) File Taxes 8) Communicate with family and friends __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

09-03-2016, 09:45 AM	#15
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	Bold = paper 1. Read a book/long article 2. Receive bills/receipts 3. Pay bills 4. Keep to-do lists/notes 5. Maintain a calendar/diary - actually I use both, for different types of calendars. 6. Send copies of important documents 7. File taxes 8. Communicate with family and friends Reading light fiction electronically is no problem - it's linear in structure and doesn't demand cross-referencing. When it comes to scientific/medical information, textbooks, cookbooks, basically anything with actual information rather than a story, paper is by far my preference. And some fiction - the type that demands thought and sometimes a look back at earlier pages, is also best on paper. I use electronic means for everyday tasks and communication, but I think permanent storage or organization of information should be on paper. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)