Iranian bloggers tortured

Undertoad · 12-29-2004, 09:32 AM

http://www.persianstudents.org/archives/001243.html

Imprisoned and tortured for having a web site. This must not stand.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-30-2004, 03:02 AM

Oh yes, torturing nerds. Now there's a manly sport...right up there with 'gator wrestling.

Why? To discredit them with forced false confessions?

Griff · 12-30-2004, 07:30 AM

Sounds like pretty classic jackboot stuff. These bastards need a new handbook.

1- Physical torture, punches and kicks: "he banged my head to the bench that made my recently-operated nose bleed, and later I found out that they broke my nose"; "they punched us"; "we were alone in single cells for months"; and things of this kind...

2- The classical questions about sexual relationships [to create moral scandals]: "Write down the names of your boy/girl friends"; "tell us about your illegal [= out of marriage] sexual relationships"; "what kind of relationship have that girl/guy had with you?"; "how many times have you been raped, or have you raped?"; and worst of all, they gave the names of 6 reformist activist to one of the girls asking her to confess in writing that she had had illegal sexual relationship with them. And when the girl refused, they brought in a former prisoner (who had turned to their side under torture) who told the girl face to face that he had had sexual relationship with her!

3- The interrogations were managed by a formerly arrested blogger. A few other bloggers who had [given up and] repented before were under less pressure, and were in a way helping the interrogators who had lack of technical knowledge on the subject [of internet and blogs]. This proves that weak people cannot be trusted in politics. However, we understand the situation they're in and can't really blame them for what they've done.

4- Objection to the bloggers right to hire lawyers, ignoring their legal rights.

5- The interrogators lacked technical knowledge [on the subject].

6- The interrogators tried to force bloggers to confess in writing based on the templates given to them in prison, which were along the same line as the Spider's Web conspiracy article published in Kayhan newspaper. The bloggers were told that they would be freed once their confessions were printed in daily newspapers. Some of the bloggers had accepted the terms, but those whom we met today had not given up.

7- The bloggers were individually asked to write lies about the sexual and sometimes political corruptness of a number of different politicians. All of them were asked to write about Mostafa Tajzadeh and myself [Abtahi] amongst others.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-30-2004, 07:45 AM

But why??

I don't understand the point. To discredit them to the outside world or to their fellow countrymen? Or their fellow countrymen in exile?

Griff · 12-30-2004, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But why??

I don't understand the point. To discredit them to the outside world or to their fellow countrymen? Or their fellow countrymen in exile?

You're making the assumption that these folks make rational decisions.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-30-2004, 07:50 AM

My bad.

12-29-2004, 09:32 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Iranian bloggers tortured http://www.persianstudents.org/archives/001243.html Imprisoned and tortured for having a web site. This must not stand.

12-30-2004, 03:02 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Oh yes, torturing nerds. Now there's a manly sport...right up there with 'gator wrestling. Why? To discredit them with forced false confessions? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-30-2004, 07:30 AM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Sounds like pretty classic jackboot stuff. These bastards need a new handbook. 1- Physical torture, punches and kicks: "he banged my head to the bench that made my recently-operated nose bleed, and later I found out that they broke my nose"; "they punched us"; "we were alone in single cells for months"; and things of this kind... 2- The classical questions about sexual relationships [to create moral scandals]: "Write down the names of your boy/girl friends"; "tell us about your illegal [= out of marriage] sexual relationships"; "what kind of relationship have that girl/guy had with you?"; "how many times have you been raped, or have you raped?"; and worst of all, they gave the names of 6 reformist activist to one of the girls asking her to confess in writing that she had had illegal sexual relationship with them. And when the girl refused, they brought in a former prisoner (who had turned to their side under torture) who told the girl face to face that he had had sexual relationship with her! 3- The interrogations were managed by a formerly arrested blogger. A few other bloggers who had [given up and] repented before were under less pressure, and were in a way helping the interrogators who had lack of technical knowledge on the subject [of internet and blogs]. This proves that weak people cannot be trusted in politics. However, we understand the situation they're in and can't really blame them for what they've done. 4- Objection to the bloggers right to hire lawyers, ignoring their legal rights. 5- The interrogators lacked technical knowledge [on the subject]. 6- The interrogators tried to force bloggers to confess in writing based on the templates given to them in prison, which were along the same line as the Spider's Web conspiracy article published in Kayhan newspaper. The bloggers were told that they would be freed once their confessions were printed in daily newspapers. Some of the bloggers had accepted the terms, but those whom we met today had not given up. 7- The bloggers were individually asked to write lies about the sexual and sometimes political corruptness of a number of different politicians. All of them were asked to write about Mostafa Tajzadeh and myself [Abtahi] amongst others. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-30-2004, 07:45 AM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But why?? I don't understand the point. To discredit them to the outside world or to their fellow countrymen? Or their fellow countrymen in exile? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-30-2004, 07:50 AM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	My bad. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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