It wasn't WMD - it was God...!!

Cyclefrance · 10-07-2005, 10:38 AM

Did I hear right today on the news while driving to work?

The BBC are usually pretty good at their reporting (well, forgetting the hoo-haa over the sexing up of the UK governement case for invasion of Iraq), and this morning they reported that GWB said that God told him to invade Iraq, even called him by his first name (I think that's God calling George by his first name, and not vice-versa).

Georgy-boy, being the devout Christian he is, could hardly disobey God now, could he....

Well that makes the whole invasion enterprise all right, doesn't it. Thank God(sic) for that. All those exit problems and loss of life have been sanctioned by the Almighty himself - well done, George, after all, who can possibly argue with the Supreme Being??

Trilby · 10-07-2005, 10:51 AM

This does not surprise me in the least. George is suffering from some sort of alcohol and cocaine induced dementia. Either that, or he's been dead for years and his whole administration has been one big Weekend at Bernie's type deal.

be-bop · 10-07-2005, 04:46 PM

What was it Cheech & Chong wrote in one of their albums

"have you heard the word of God today?,He can save your soul.Look at me I used to be all messed up on drugs,now I'm just all messed up on the Lord"

Stay away from the Red Button George

God · 10-07-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclefrance

.... could hardly disobey God now, could he....

That's actually better addressed in another thread up here...but anyway....

I always have to remember that with many people I have a *lot* of influence and with many people I have next to none.

Allah was just making the same point on the phone the other day.

Sometimes you just cant win. Everyone wants signs. "Give me a sign, God...should I [insert whatever you like here]"?

I hear this all the time and often just set my auto-prayer-reply as something along the line of "use your best judgement" or maybe "Let the force guide you"*. Many times I have other things going and cant actually give a personal reply to everyone.

I have a life, so sue me.

In this case, there must have been something good on TV or maybe I was trying to be funny and gave a somewhat confusing message back to W. In certain cases in the past I have given suggestions back as a joke, some of which they have taken seriously, for example:

W: ahh...God....should I invade Iraq?

God: [heavy sarcasm] If you were really smart.....you would [/heavy sarcasm]

So in this case the whole Iraq situation might have been started because of timing. When Survivor is on, I give wiseass replies.

* - Not really, this just sounded funny in my head

10-07-2005, 08:44 PM

Hey, God! I thought you were supposed to be omnipresent! That means present in all places in all times in case you skipped class the day that was covered in Theology 101. So, in theory, you could hear prayers and watch "Surviver" at the same time. Not to be sacrireligous or anything.

Undertoad · 10-08-2005, 02:53 AM

Turns out the story came from a BBC Press Release hyping an upcoming special and was first reported in a June 25, 2003, Haaretz article (see last paragraph).

Great reporting, huh? If it's a top story, they were only two years and four months behind it.

God · 10-08-2005, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by marichiko

Hey, God! I thought you were supposed to be omnipresent!

(flips through the manual looking)

Happy Monkey · 10-08-2005, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Great reporting, huh? If it's a top story, they were only two years and four months behind it.

It's a bit of a catch 22, isn't it? A story gets no play when Bush is popular and now that he isn't, the story's old.

I'm pretty sure this story did come out years ago, but only on liberal sites.

Undertoad · 10-08-2005, 10:17 AM

So why he would make such a statement to Abu Mazen and not to anyone else?

xoxoxoBruce · 10-08-2005, 10:48 AM

Because he was posturing.....in the middle of the street.....at high noon.
So Allah wants you to fight the Jews, huh?
Well, God told me to kick ass and take names, so bring it on.

wolf · 10-08-2005, 12:58 PM

Allah told Mohammed to fight a whole lot of people, including his own tribe, whom he had to wipe from the face of the earth over some perceived slight. To Mohammed.

Islam is pretty ego-centric in that regard. Mohammed changed behavioral codes that had earlier "been written" pretty much to suit himself and his needs. Allah told you you could only have one wife? Couple chapters later, Allah says it's okay to take as many as you like. Allah says to make truce with the Qayrash? All right, except that because of some loophole the Qayrash didn't know about and also didn't violate, the truce is void and Qayrash may be slaughtered unarmed.

There are also, I have learned, writings beyond the Quran that amend or change information in the Quran.

10-08-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Because he was posturing.....in the middle of the street.....at high noon.
So Allah wants you to fight the Jews, huh?
Well, God told me to kick ass and take names, so bring it on.

Not exactly, here's a snip from today's edition of
Haaretz, an Israeli,paper:

Selected minutes acquired by Haaretz from one of last week's cease-fire negotiations between Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas and faction leaders from the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular and Democratic Fronts, reveal some of the factors at play behind the scenes in the effort to achieve a hudna.

Abbas said that at Aqaba, Bush promised to speak with Sharon about the siege on Arafat. He said nobody can speak to or pressure Sharon except the Americans.

According to Abbas, immediately thereafter Bush said: "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

Elspode · 10-08-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Allah says to make truce with the Qayrash? All right, except that because of some loophole the Qayrash didn't know about and also didn't violate, the truce is void and Qayrash may be slaughtered unarmed.

This sounds a lot like "we have to go kick Saddam's ass before he gets us with those WMDs...what...no WMDs? Um...well, we had to go kick his ass because he's evil."

Hey, what's good for the Muslims is good for the Goyim.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-08-2005, 10:59 PM

From the BBC;

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"'And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God I'm gonna do it'," said Shaath.

From Haaretz;

Quote:

According to Abbas, immediately thereafter Bush said: "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

Well, who's right? BBC? Haaretz? Neither?

10-08-2005, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

From the BBC;
From Haaretz;
Well, who's right? BBC? Haaretz? Neither?

Your juxtaposition of quotes is rather misleading, Bruce, so let me give the more complete quote from Haaretz:

Abbas said: "We were asked what we need if Israel withdraws and we said `that there not be raids, chases, assassinations or house demolitions, because that kind of activity will destroy everything.'"

Abbas tried to placate the faction leaders by telling them that Palestinian Security Minister Mohammed Dahlan had raised the exact same issues with John Wolf, the American monitor of the road map. He tried to explain that in the wake of the failed attempt on Abdel Aziz Rantisi's life, the PA was now insisting on an end to the assassinations.

He went on to explain his speech in Aqaba. "We did not speak of our rights but only of our commitments. Bush was impressed by that and mentioned the prisoners and settlements in his speech." On the matter of the right of return, Abbas said "that right appears in all the previous initiatives, and is not under discussion now. Bush asked, if that's the case, why mention the settlements now, and I told him the settlements are happening now. The Israelis use the excuse of natural growth and I told them that according to U.S. statistics, 33 percent of settlements are empty. We said the growth should happen westward, and not on our territory."

Abbas said that at Aqaba, Bush promised to speak with Sharon about the siege on Arafat. He said nobody can speak to or pressure Sharon except the Americans.

According to Abbas, immediately thereafter Bush said: "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

Why would Abbas lie about this OR Haaretz?

10-07-2005, 10:38 AM	#1
Cyclefrance Pump my ride! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deep countryside of Surrey , England Posts: 1,890	It wasn't WMD - it was God...!! Did I hear right today on the news while driving to work? The BBC are usually pretty good at their reporting (well, forgetting the hoo-haa over the sexing up of the UK governement case for invasion of Iraq), and this morning they reported that GWB said that God told him to invade Iraq, even called him by his first name (I think that's God calling George by his first name, and not vice-versa). Georgy-boy, being the devout Christian he is, could hardly disobey God now, could he.... Well that makes the whole invasion enterprise all right, doesn't it. Thank God(sic) for that. All those exit problems and loss of life have been sanctioned by the Almighty himself - well done, George, after all, who can possibly argue with the Supreme Being?? __________________ Always sufficient hills - never sufficient gears Last edited by Cyclefrance; 10-07-2005 at 10:48 AM. Reason: Link to news story added

10-07-2005, 10:51 AM	#2
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	This does not surprise me in the least. George is suffering from some sort of alcohol and cocaine induced dementia. Either that, or he's been dead for years and his whole administration has been one big Weekend at Bernie's type deal. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

10-08-2005, 10:48 AM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Because he was posturing.....in the middle of the street.....at high noon. So Allah wants you to fight the Jews, huh? Well, God told me to kick ass and take names, so bring it on. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-08-2005, 12:58 PM	#11
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Allah told Mohammed to fight a whole lot of people, including his own tribe, whom he had to wipe from the face of the earth over some perceived slight. To Mohammed. Islam is pretty ego-centric in that regard. Mohammed changed behavioral codes that had earlier "been written" pretty much to suit himself and his needs. Allah told you you could only have one wife? Couple chapters later, Allah says it's okay to take as many as you like. Allah says to make truce with the Qayrash? All right, except that because of some loophole the Qayrash didn't know about and also didn't violate, the truce is void and Qayrash may be slaughtered unarmed. There are also, I have learned, writings beyond the Quran that amend or change information in the Quran. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-07-2005, 04:46 PM	#3
be-bop Operations Operative Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: scotland/uk Posts: 664	What was it Cheech & Chong wrote in one of their albums "have you heard the word of God today?,He can save your soul.Look at me I used to be all messed up on drugs,now I'm just all messed up on the Lord" Stay away from the Red Button George

10-07-2005, 08:44 PM	#5
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Hey, God! I thought you were supposed to be omnipresent! That means present in all places in all times in case you skipped class the day that was covered in Theology 101. So, in theory, you could hear prayers and watch "Surviver" at the same time. Not to be sacrireligous or anything.

10-08-2005, 02:53 AM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Turns out the story came from a BBC Press Release hyping an upcoming special and was first reported in a June 25, 2003, Haaretz article (see last paragraph). Great reporting, huh? If it's a top story, they were only two years and four months behind it.

10-08-2005, 10:17 AM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	So why he would make such a statement to Abu Mazen and not to anyone else?

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