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classicman 01-08-2013 12:57 AM

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what part of my response shows i'm not interested
This part ...
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Answer two questions:
1) % of Whites that voted for Obama -
2) % of Blacks that voted for Romney -
Did you? Nope. You just quickly replied with your typical immature emotional response.
You couldn't even be bothered to access some facts nor data with which to support your assumptions.

Ibby 01-08-2013 01:02 AM

sorry, i assumed that it was common knowledge that a statistically-insignificant number of african-americans, and an only slightly less insignificant number of other PoC, voted for romney. I assumed that point was rhetorical, I didn't realize you actually wanted the numbers.

But even if not one black person voted for romney, that would go NOWHERE towards identifying racial animus towards white people from blacks. Because it falsely equates "black people not voting for romney" with "white people not voting for Obama" as if Obama had positions as negative to white people as Romney did negative to black people.

classicman 01-08-2013 01:03 AM

You still haven't answered the question.

classicman 01-08-2013 01:05 AM

41% of Whites that voted for Obama.
7% of Blacks that voted for Romney.

Here, since you are too fucking lazy.....
What,if any, conclusion can one draw from the data?

Ibby 01-08-2013 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibby (Post 846967)
...it tells me that people of colour overwhelmingly perceive the republican party as being misaligned to their interests? Do you argue that this is a perception they hold illegitimately?


classicman 01-08-2013 01:13 AM

It can be argued that blacks are far more racists than whites.
Blacks are 6x more racist than whites.

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because I haven't spoken with a single person of color who feels that the republican party supports their interests.
Hahahahaaaaaa... THAT is the funniest thing I've read in some time.

Ibby 01-08-2013 01:17 AM

the fact that you think black people can be racist against white people alone is laughable. the fact that you think black people and other PoC reading the GOP as misaligned to their interests is illegitimate is even more laughable.

xoxoxoBruce 01-08-2013 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 846971)
Observation. ~snip~ Even then it is difficult since many people can look at the same thing and come to much different conclusions.

You obviously have your head on straight, but I'm afraid you're wasting your breath trying to explain to Mr Myopia. :rolleyes:

classicman 01-08-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibby (Post 846979)
the fact that you think black people can be racist against white people alone is laughable.

Therein lies YOUR problem. Your mind is far too closed at such a young age.
What truly concerns me is that you actually believe what you post. :yelsick:

classicman 01-08-2013 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 846980)
You obviously have your head on straight, but I'm afraid you're wasting your breath trying to explain to Mr Myopia. :rolleyes:

OK, I've tried to "like" this several times already...
:thumb:

Ibby 01-08-2013 01:30 AM

@classic

55 percent of women voted for Obama, while only 44 percent voted for Mitt Romney...
does this mean that women are on the whole sexist and hate men?
no, wait, they were both men.
It means that women on the whole decided, by an 11-point gap, decided that the GOP was not aligned with their interests.
Does the fact that only 11% of black people voted for Bush in 2004 mean that it was a racist decision? no, because both candidates were white. Thus, it only meant that black people, in general, found the GOP candidate to be not aligned with their own interests. Why does the fact that 4% fewer voted for Romney than voted for Bush in '04 mean that suddenly those statistics indicate that black people are racist? (hint: they don't at all)

classicman 01-08-2013 01:33 AM

yeah. Stick with that Ibs. Good for you.

Ibby 01-08-2013 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 846981)
Therein lies YOUR problem. Your mind is far too closed at such a young age.
What truly concerns me is that you actually believe what you post. :yelsick:

yeah, but only cause you're racist.
yes, i said it. no, i won't take it back. you're racist if you think that black people have any power whatsoever to oppress white people. because you're wrong, and only your deep-seated racism can explain the fact that black people have never, ever held the power to oppress white people in this country or anywhere else.
and the fact that I know you're about to disagree proves that you have no understanding of what racism means or is.

Ibby 01-08-2013 01:44 AM

Is a single PoC here willing to agree that white people should get to define racism?
Is a single woman here willing to agree that men should get to define sexism and patriarchy?
Is a single queer here willing to agree that cishet people should get to define homphobia or transphobia?
just one of you, come on. Just one of any category that isn't cis het white male.

classicman 01-08-2013 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibby (Post 846985)
yeah, but only cause you're racist.
yes, i said it. no, i won't take it back

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and the fact that I know you're about to disagree proves that you have no understanding of what racism means or is.
There is no need for me to argue, nor disagree with you. You are too ignorant of the basic facts and definitions of the words which you throw around. You've been coddled and cared for your entire life. You live off the money that mommy and daddy send you. You're like the rich hippies I used to hang with at the dead shows. I find it rather amusing. Ibsy riding in on his white horse to save the oppressed.

Young man,you wear your self inflicted oppression like a badge of honor and act as though it earns you respect or something. You expect others to give you some type of "pass" and treat you differently because of it. Not gonna happen. As I already said, I'll not waste my time disagreeing with you or your ridiculous opinion. It, nor you matter enough.


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