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Tiki 05-20-2009 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 567260)
I do have the ability to pull original articles in their complete format if you need me to.
Ooooh really? I might hit you up for that. There have been a number of times when I have been thwarted by being unable to access articles. Thanks!

jinx 05-20-2009 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 567256)
That covers the overview and (partially) one of the studies, what of the other 19?
I'm not done reading them, but I'm out of time for right now.

Flint 05-20-2009 01:15 PM
Tiki, are you contributing to the tip jar? . . . 'cause you keep gettin' serrrved

Tiki 05-20-2009 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 567261)
1 in 12,000 is a pretty high incidence in medicine. And most likely due to the severity of intussusception for the infants that get it, not worth the risk-benefit ratio.
Yes, it makes sense that it was withdrawn, and replaced by a safer version of the vaccine, also developed by Offit.

Flint 05-20-2009 01:16 PM
You knocked that out of the park.

Tiki 05-20-2009 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 567264)
Tiki, are you contributing to the tip jar? . . . 'cause you keep gettin' serrrved
What does "served" mean?

I will contribute to the tip jar (Faust at PD can testify) when I am no longer flat broke. :P

Flint 05-20-2009 01:17 PM
This thread is the awesomest.

TheMercenary 05-20-2009 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiki (Post 567262)
Ooooh really? I might hit you up for that. There have been a number of times when I have been thwarted by being unable to access articles. Thanks!
I would have to pull them down load them and then send them to you via email. I don't think we have the bandwidth to post multipage documents as attachments to threads.

Tiki 05-20-2009 01:19 PM
I don't think anyone would argue that a rotavirus vaccine itself is a bad thing, or that Offit is some kind of profiteering monster for making the development of one his life's work: http://www.who.int/immunization_moni.../en/index.html

Tiki 05-20-2009 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 567270)
I would have to pull them down load them and then send them to you via email. I don't think we have the bandwidth to post multipage documents as attachments to threads.
OK... if I find something I really MUST have and my housemate can't access it for me through her lab, I'll PM you. :) Thanks!

Flint 05-20-2009 01:20 PM
There's an easy test to see if your child has robovirus: hit them in the head with a hammer.

TheMercenary 05-20-2009 01:22 PM
Well I have had rotavirus myself and I have taken care of infants with it. I know plenty of people who have gotten it. I can tell you, it ain't pretty. Most kids who get it in developed countries survive. I am sure it would be quite devastating for those who did not have access to rehydration sources.

TheMercenary 05-20-2009 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 567273)
There's an easy test to see if your child has robovirus: hit them in the head with a hammer.
Call this guy:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/8356/robocopCD.jpg

Tiki 05-20-2009 01:24 PM
Yes, most of the deaths are in underdeveloped, impoverished countries. It's pretty sad.

Flint 05-20-2009 01:27 PM
You two are turning this into a real bummer.


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