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Bullitt 12-07-2010 03:39 PM

I'm sure their protocol is extremely rigid, just as it is here in the EMS world. Public safety has gotten that way over the years in all forms fire, EMS, police, TSA, etc. Deviate and you're screwed because that protocol is your Bible and you better have it memorized word for word. I get tired of seeing people in pain and family members suffering all the time, but it's my job that I chose and I wouldn't be here if I wasn't willing to deal with it.

I have a degree of sympathy for them in regards to just needing the job in this economy. They're in a sucky situation, I'm sure many of them were employed long before the enhanced pat downs and scanners were implemented. What should they do, quit over moral issues? Not in this economy.

footfootfoot 12-07-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 698835)
It seems rather harsh to judge the people who are just doing what they're told to do, saying they must be more stupid than fast food employees.

"I was only following orders" isn't that the Nuremburg defense?
Maybe not more stupid, maybe more stupid. I was talking about the ability to think for yourself and within that concept is encompassed "despite what your superiors may have told you."

And I stand by my original assertion, we need people like that, people who follow orders without question. "Run into that cave and flush out the enemy? Fuck you, sarge." <---not that kind of attitude.

Pico and ME 12-07-2010 04:22 PM

How many people sign up for this job now, do you think? Before it probably held a little prestige, now maybe not so much. I'd be hard pressed to go for it.

footfootfoot 12-07-2010 07:41 PM

never name the well you won't drink from

Pico and ME 12-07-2010 11:48 PM

Ha...good point, but the odds are really slim.

Shawnee123 12-08-2010 07:41 AM

I sure wouldn't want to do that job. But I don't want the one I have. :rolleyes:

Thing is, they pay me...and it takes money to not be homeless. Unless you have rich relatives or something, I guess. I doubt that's the case for most of those people, or else many would rise up and say "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore."

Spexxvet 12-08-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt (Post 698827)
So I'm supposed to feel sorry for them? Fuck that.

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Originally Posted by Bullitt (Post 698839)
I have a degree of sympathy for them

Ok, I'm confused.

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 698820)
There is a use for people who are incapable of thinking for themselves:
Suicide missions and cannon fodder.

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 698840)
"I was only following orders" isn't that the Nuremburg defense?
Maybe not more stupid, maybe more stupid. I was talking about the ability to think for yourself and within that concept is encompassed "despite what your superiors may have told you."

And I stand by my original assertion, we need people like that, people who follow orders without question. "Run into that cave and flush out the enemy? Fuck you, sarge." <---not that kind of attitude.

I doubt that these people are "incapable of thinking for themselves". I'll bet that they want to keep their jobs, and keep flying safe. If they were to quit in righteous indignity, there'd be ten applicants for every abandoned position.

Bullitt 12-08-2010 11:07 AM

Those were two different issues. I don't feel sorry for them if something happens after they follow all their protocol. And neither should they. I do feel sorry for their economic position of just needing a job in this economy, and many probably don't like the new rules and procedures any more than the average passenger.

glatt 12-15-2010 03:31 PM

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Perry Winkle 12-18-2010 07:11 AM

That dude is totally playing with himself.


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