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xoxoxoBruce 03-24-2019 08:26 AM

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Pam's not seeing these as they're strictly Aussie born and raised...

Gravdigr 03-24-2019 12:09 PM

Shit, ain't ~70 tires enough?

xoxoxoBruce 03-24-2019 10:08 PM

He also has a scissors jack and lug wrench. :lol:

Gravdigr 03-25-2019 12:30 PM

All ya need is a can o' air...

Carruthers 03-26-2019 01:59 PM

I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised that this still happens but I raised an eyebrow at the time taken before the driver decided to stop.

Perhaps that's an unfair criticism as people don't all behave in the same way in an emergency.


xoxoxoBruce 03-27-2019 12:27 AM

It happens everywhere, some places repeatedly, but this guy apparently took awhile to figure out what happened. He felt a small jerk and heard a noise and probably looked at his engine gages instead of the mirrors.

Carruthers 03-27-2019 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1029129)
It happens everywhere, some places repeatedly, but this guy apparently took awhile to figure out what happened. He felt a small jerk and heard a noise and probably looked at his engine gages instead of the mirrors.

Blackthorn railway bridge just outside Bicester on the Aylesbury side has been repeatedly struck by overheight vehicles despite all manner of warning signs starting several miles away and on the bridge itself.

I was once following a large vehicle carrying a detachable container used for transporting scrap metal.
As it approached the bridge the driver slowed to a snail's pace and all seemed well until the truck was all but entirely beneath the bridge. That's when the fun started.
On the top rear corner of the container was a triangular steel fillet welded to a piece of vertical pipe, which I understand is to facilitate stacking of containers.
As the truck inched forward the fillet came into contact with the outside lower edge of the bridge and gradually the whole ensemble was pressed down on the springs.
Unfortunately, as it moved forward the fillet and pipe structure instantly rose and it became stuck in the corrugated underside of the bridge deck.
I don't know how it was removed but, if pressed, I'd say that deflation of tyres probably featured quite prominently in the recovery plan!

xoxoxoBruce 03-27-2019 11:18 AM

"truck hits bridge" ?

"About 23,300,000 results (0.42 seconds)"

Images galore, in 30 different categories of truck hits bridge.

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Diaphone Jim 03-27-2019 12:11 PM

The 11Foot8 bridge is represented on a bunch of Youtubes.
Have to admit a minor addiction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw

tw 03-27-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim (Post 1029168)
The 11Foot8 bridge is represented on a bunch of Youtubes.

A national standard was created in the early 1950s: 14 feet. Any bridge that does not meet that standard should have been removed or fixed long ago.

Nobody should be expected to always see a sign (ie 11'8"). A human who is reading is not (cannot) see moving traffic. Expecting a human to constantly shift from and to 'text processing' creates fatigue. And does not always happen.

At a minimum, a 14 foot pole over the road with many chains hanging from that pole should be installed on approaches to and on both sides of that bridge. Then the obvious noise of chains warns a driver of a defectively installed and maintained bridge.

Rather than blame persons and reason for that defect, we blame a driver for doing what drivers cannot do every time. No driver is expected to see those text numbers every time. So many videos demonstrate the problem - that bridge and the problem people who will not fix it.

Some bridges are located over a low spot in the road. So a long trailer that is only 11' 4" high can still strike an 11' 8" bridge. Is that a driver's fault that the sign is also wrong? No. That is a bridge that should have been at 14' - generations ago.

xoxoxoBruce 03-28-2019 12:41 AM

14 foot for interstate highways only. That was for missile carriers clearance. Then they raised it to 16 feet but backed off when they found what it would cost to retrofit the whole system.

There was never any intention to make everything 14 feet. That would bankrupt the country. On the low bridges commonly hit they have tried warning boards hanging low, flashing lights, and signs up the wazoo, with little effect. You can't prevent stupid.

tw 03-28-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1029220)
There was never any intention to make everything 14 feet. That would bankrupt the country.

Nonsense. A bridge is simply jacked up and the roadway (that gets replaced every 10 years) is adjusted. It was recently done in one town so that fire engines could get to the other side of town. It cost very little to hydraulically raise the bridge and pour reinforced concrete on the existing supporting walls.

Anytime a bridge gets rebuilt - it is automatically raised. But we do not do that when naysaying cost controllers cry it costs too much and has no puirpose. After all, the destructive of trucks does not appear on those bean counter' spread sheets. So raising a bridge is an unnecessary expense. Using same business school reasoning that also created the Flint water crisis.

An interstate standard height is (should be) standard for all bridges. We have no problem spending more money (than the entire economy of India - $3 trillion) on lies for Mission Accomplished. Then have no money to fix the infrastructure. We would rather waste 5000 American soldiers on an obvious lie rather than fix glaring defects.

Took friends from Europe to NYC. They were shocked at how much of America is in decrepit condition. Trains were obsolete, noisy, and uncomfortable. Whole neighborhoods in disarray. Streets with shockingly poor surfaces. Wires hanging from poles all over every street. Constant grid lock on so many main highways. Even the airport and transportation from it was akin to what is expected in many third world nations.

That 11'3" bridge is simply another example of an economy so pathetic as to even lead poison its citizens in Flint MI - and many other towns where same actions by cost controllers were not reported.

Only two tunnels, built over 100 years ago by the long gone Pennsylvania railroad, are the only major connection to NYC across the Hudson River. So another bean counter (anti-America) governor quashed construction of desperately needed tunnels. And then obstructed more traffic over a bridge. It's not just bridges that are trophies to a decaying nation.

How many consider those crash videos from only one bridge acceptable? That is the definition of an American who would rather waste money on bogus wars and enrich himself rather than make America great. The people who say it costs too much - business school graduates.

Undertoad 03-28-2019 09:09 AM

11foot8.com

it has its own website. From the FAQ

Why don’t they fix it?
Depends on who “they” are and on what “fix” means.

The North Carolina Railroad Company owns the train trestle, and their concern is primarily with keeping the trains running and keeping them running safely. So their concern is mainly with reducing the impact of the truck crashes on the actual structure of the train trestle. As far as they are concerned, they solved that problem by installing the crash beam.

The city of Durham has installed “low clearance” signs on each of the 3 blocks leading up to the trestle (Gregson is a one-way road). There is a sensor that triggers an LED blackout warning sign when In overheight vehicle approaches the trestle (more info below). Several blocks ahead of the trestle the speed limit is 25 MPH. The folks from the city planning department said that they made an effort to prevent accidents.

The North Carolina Dept. of Transportation maintains the road, but not the signage. I suspect they have much bigger problems to deal with statewide than this bridge.

Can’t the road be lowered?
That would be prohibitively expensive because a sewer main runs just a few feet below the road bed. That sewer main also dates back about a hundred years and, again, at the time there were no real standards for minimum clearance for railroad underpasses.

Can’t the bridge be raised?
Here, too, the question is who would want to pay the millions of dollars to raise the tracks a couple of feet? To accomplish this, the grade of the tracks would have to changed on both sides of the trestle, probably for several miles. That would require rebuilding all trestles in Durham. And NS would have to shut down this busy track for months. I don’t think they are interested in that idea.

tw 03-28-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1029244)
Here, too, the question is who would want to pay the millions of dollars to raise the tracks a couple of feet? To accomplish this, the grade of the tracks would have to changed on both sides of the trestle, probably for several miles.

First it did not cost anywhere near a $million to raise that bridge two feet. I believe it was less than $100,000. And the grade need only be raised for a thousand feet in each direction. When the entire bed is upgraded (every ten years if using wooden ties or when those ties are replaced with concrete), then everything gets fixed. Since they are changing most everything anyway.

After 70 years, we cannot change because nothing can be changed? Nonsense. The entire rail bed (and bridge) is fixed when major refurbishment is done every 10 or 20 years.

Problem is too many thinking like an MBA - only this year. This problem exists because 20 and 40 years ago, a solution was not being implemented. All thinking must be in terms of decades - not months or years. (It even takes four years to design a light bulb.)

We are not thinking in terms of a solution. Because so many of us are educated in MBA concepts - where everything is only about the cost this year. And then have no problem wasting $3 trillion on Mission Accomplished - due to lies.

No reason for any bridge to be less than 14 feet - in a nation that wants to make America great. But those who use that expression only want to enrich themselves - cut costs - make more Flints.

No reason for any bridge to be that low. So many fear to fix and upgrade. Since, according to spread sheets, building something new creates an asset (good). Fixing or upgrading (or even painting) something only creates an expense (evil). Spread sheet (defeatist) logic.

Gravdigr 03-28-2019 10:53 AM

So, tw, who pays for it?

Diaphone Jim 03-28-2019 11:49 AM

Just another roadside attraction.
Extreme efforts have been made to warn drivers, but extreme stupid prevails.
Video taping 24/7 has made a nice small business.
Moving vans, rental trucks and RV's seem to prevail. All entertaining.

xoxoxoBruce 03-28-2019 11:51 AM

[quote=tw;1029242]
Babble babble, babble.
Coulda, shoulda, woulda.
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An interstate standard height is (should be) standard for all bridges.
Should be? You said it was the national standard. It is not, there is no national standard.
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Took friends from Europe to NYC.
Lie, you have no friends.
More irrelevant babble

tw 03-29-2019 04:42 AM

[QUOTE from an adult who is still a child ]
Babble babble, babble.
I lie out my ass because that is where my brain is.
I believe Saddam had WMDs.
I love The Don.
I say exactly what my extremist handlers order me to believe.[/quote]


14 feet is not the size of your penis. Please try to comprehend what was written. Not what your extremist right hand tells you.

14 feet is also the requirement for all phone, cable, and telephone wires that cross over streets. If you were not an emotional child, you would have known that. It is a defacto national standard. Bridges at less than 14 feet remain due to contempt. Same contempt justifies a lie that fixing would cost too much. A fix that was done for less than $100,000 would somehow cost a $million.

tw 03-30-2019 09:06 AM

Back in the mid 1970s, a friend bought a house from the hospital for $1, moved it across town, and restored it. Adjacent was a railroad bridge at about 11 feet. Trucks would strike that bridge at least once a week. It was a normal neighborhood sound.

Just happened to be back in that state this week. NJ Transit (without interrupting service on their main line) raised that bridge almost three feet. It is only at 13 feet 11 inches. No problem. They simply jacked up the bridge, poured new concrete atop existing supports, and made the appropriate grade changes to the tracks. You can even see where cleaner, new concrete now supports that bridge.

Back then, that bridge was constantly scarred from recent strikes. I looked closely. Today, no scars from any trucks hitting that bridge. They fixed the problem rather than make excuses - ie deny that 14 foot is this nation's de facto standard.

Gravdigr 03-30-2019 10:50 AM

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xoxoxoBruce 03-30-2019 07:10 PM

NJ Transit is the Toonerville Trolly of the railroad world, and owned by the state of NJ, so you know who paid for that bridge bump. :rolleyes:

tw 03-31-2019 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1029484)
NJ Transit is the Toonerville Trolly of the railroad world, and owned by the state of NJ, so you know who paid for that bridge bump.

That's emotioinal conclusion clearly is not supported by intelligent thought or knowledge.

NJ Transit is starved for cash. Last year being the Summer of Hell for commuters due to Gov Christie's constant budget cuts, no additional funding, and cancelling new construction. In that same town, a bridge for one of the most used roads has been closed for most of the past ten years. NJ Transit has that little money.

A bridge was raised almost three feet because is costs so little. And was hit weekly. Raising bridges is easy, inexpensive, and should be routine over the many decades. But people like Christie and xoxoxoBruce just say it cannot be done - using emotional logic.

Another bridge on the same railroad that demonstrates a problem that naysayers deny:

xoxoxoBruce 03-31-2019 10:43 PM

No, I didn't say it couldn't be done, try reading for comprehension. I said we know who paid for it.

tw 04-01-2019 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1029536)
I said we know who paid for it.

Which is irrelevant to the topic - except if venomous.

Is your nickname Snake?

xoxoxoBruce 04-02-2019 02:10 AM

It wasn't a real railroad, it wouldn't have happened with a real railroad unless it was of benefit to them.

tw 04-02-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1029612)
It wasn't a real railroad, it wouldn't have happened with a real railroad unless it was of benefit to them.

That is a major commuter line. About 60 incoming and 60 outgoing trains use that bridge daily. Each carrying hundreds of passengers.

Fortunately rail traffic was halted in time. Since a bridge strike moved that bridge (that was obviously too low) and broke rails.

It is not a real railroad only when one is naysaying emotionally.

Standard for bridges is 14 feet. For some reason, the emotional would waste $trillions for 20 years on a Mission Accomplished war (that had no purpose) rather than fix infrastructure. While denying the problem.

xoxoxoBruce 04-02-2019 10:47 AM

It's not my problem, you pay for it, I'm not paying for it, I have a righteous crusade in the middle east to pay for. http://cellar.org/2012/bwekk.gif

tw 04-04-2019 12:40 PM

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I have a righteous crusade in the middle east to pay for. ]

Actually the Chinese are paying for it. And we will be paying the Chinese (with interest) for the next 30 years.

xoxoxoBruce 04-11-2019 01:04 AM

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This is rare.

xoxoxoBruce 04-21-2019 01:44 AM

Scrape the snow off...


BigV 04-21-2019 12:24 PM

I can see how some guy's frustration (If I have to shovel ONE MORE TRUCK...) plus gumption equals this product. Well done!

xoxoxoBruce 04-22-2019 01:47 AM

I could see that for truck stops where they have to park it for eight hours or so, they could pick up a lot of snow in that time.

Pamela 04-23-2019 01:37 AM

I usually see those at shipper yards, such as FedEx or UPS. They are more common in CO and WY and places that see a LOT of snow. Some states have even passed a law that trucks must be cleared of snow because it tends to cause a whiteout behind us until the roof clears off, which can endanger motorists who follow too closely. Falling ice is especially hazardous.

I'd like to see these scrapers in truck stops in snow-prone areas, perhaps with a small fee to use them. Safer for everybody.

xoxoxoBruce 04-23-2019 01:41 AM

But you know some idiot(Swift?) is going to use it without checking the height. :lol:

fargon 04-23-2019 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pamela (Post 1030980)
I'd like to see these scrapers in truck stops in snow-prone areas, perhaps with a small fee to use them. Safer for everybody.

Just put them in the exits and make them free to use. If people had to pay they wouldn't do it. And yes it would be safer.

xoxoxoBruce 04-23-2019 04:11 AM

Then you have all the pushed off snow piled up on the exit, and eventually it'll built up till they hit the thing. Also there are the rigs with those high airfoils on the tractor and oversize loads that won't fit.

xoxoxoBruce 06-13-2019 08:07 AM

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They claim thy lost about a pound of bees... I guess they weren't insured.

xoxoxoBruce 06-23-2019 12:39 AM

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I hope it was an air-ride tractor...

Griff 07-02-2019 05:19 PM

Pretty hard on your Prius.

xoxoxoBruce 07-03-2019 12:52 AM

Maybe sliding the battery over him would induction cook him. ;)

Gravdigr 07-03-2019 01:21 PM

But, then he'd be charged with battery.

:jig:

Gravdigr 03-12-2020 01:57 PM

Man, how fast was the driver going???

Ya ain't got long to look, so, look fast:



Link

Better bigger.

BigV 03-12-2020 09:59 PM

What speed?

Airspeed.

xoxoxoBruce 03-12-2020 11:21 PM

That's the video I posted the screen shots from.

xoxoxoBruce 05-12-2020 07:15 AM

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Bet nobody sees this everyday...

BigV 05-12-2020 11:08 AM

That's pretty fucked up. Obviously there's more to the story. I'm pretty sure I don't want to know the rest of the details that leads someone to such a reaction.

xoxoxoBruce 05-12-2020 01:28 PM

I'm betting they hired him then did a background check while he was making his first run. Maybe they found out he murdered his last three employers, Has a criminal or drug record, or simply doesn't have a CDL.
But since they offered to reimburse his expenses and buy him a plane ticket, probably something scary. :unsure:

tw 05-12-2020 03:09 PM

Just another example of someone who wants to wreck shit.

Griff 05-13-2020 06:22 AM

This should be a reminder to treat truckers decently. If they wanted they could shut this country down... I wonder what that would feel like? /s

xoxoxoBruce 05-13-2020 11:37 AM

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That means you could drive faster with less congestion until passed out from hunger and crashed to death. ;)


Tricky job hauling a flagpole in the rough...

xoxoxoBruce 05-15-2020 12:51 AM

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There are long loads like the flagpole and short loads.
Then there are short loads that don't last long.

Diaphone Jim 05-16-2020 11:30 AM

Had it tied down good, though.

Gravdigr 05-16-2020 01:20 PM



In case the player don't play, link.

BigV 05-16-2020 04:52 PM

That is the most forgiving transmission I have ever seen.

fargon 05-16-2020 06:30 PM

That's a 13 Speed Roadranger

fargon 05-16-2020 06:31 PM

And that Kid knows how to drive it. even with his Mother screaming at him the whole time.


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