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xoxoxoBruce 02-24-2008 12:33 PM

How common, or uncommon if you wish, is this in soccer?

lookout123 02-24-2008 04:17 PM

dipshit tackles are pretty common. but those are usually the "came in late", "stuck the foot in too long" kind. The "i'm not going to go for the ball on my way to your shin" are pretty rare though. injuries like this happen once every few years.

xoxoxoBruce 02-24-2008 05:02 PM

Are there likely to be reprisals on the dirty player?

zippyt 02-24-2008 05:19 PM

I saw the Video from this , and some stills , NASTY !!!!

lumberjim 02-24-2008 07:46 PM

yeah. could be either compassion or venting. regardless......there's an attraction to the thread for some more than others. not judging you. just stirring the poo.

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DanaC 02-25-2008 07:03 AM

lj me love you long time.

Trilby 02-25-2008 07:45 AM

me love lj for long time, too.



















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Flint 02-25-2008 09:34 AM

Eduardo tackle was dangerous, not malicious -telegraph.co.uk
Quote:

Only those with the flintiest of hearts would not have allowed Arsenal some outpouring of frustration at the end.

lookout123 02-25-2008 10:13 AM

Complete BS article by an asshat journalist. dangerous? going into a tackle your foot can slip a bit high, and you might clip the other player - that would be dangerous. But if you are playing the ball your toes are extended. You can't win the ball with the bottom of your foot. Taylor went into the tackle with his foot higher than the ball, both feet off the ground (no chance of pulling out of a challenge) and his foot flexed with only cleats showing. Malicious all day. That and the fucker actually laughed after he saw the result.

Quote:

Warriors like Joey Barton
But all that really needs to be said about the author is this quote. If he thinks Joey Barton is a warrior, then he is a fool. He is known more for cheap shots and being arrested for assault than any skill he might have.

Flint 02-25-2008 10:18 AM

A little thing called context:
Quote:

There are some others in the game, individuals with a violent streak, who would launch themselves at opponents in a crude attempt to stop them.
...
Saturday's dreadful accident must encourage all professionals who have been guilty of spiteful challenges...to see the error of their ways.
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Restraint is required.
Warriors like Joey Barton...should think before they dive in.

lookout123 02-25-2008 10:34 AM

i read it and i understand the context. putting "warrior" and "joey barton" just doesn't work. If you ever watched Barton play you'd understand that warrior should be replaced with brainless thug. This is the problem in the english game right now. You've got a bunch of media hacks telling people what is right and what is wrong. They talk about "english grit" when describing dirty tackles made by Barton, Savage, etc. and they exalt the dirty play of their legend Roy Keane. The young players come out and try to duplicate what this style of play and injuries are inevitable. They describe injuries as unlucky rather than what they are - the obvious and inevitable result of letting dangerous tackles go unpunished. eh, whatever.

Flint 02-25-2008 10:57 AM

Yeah, my interest in this extends only as far as my name was mentioned in the article.

As far as what you're saying about dangerous tackles, that appears to be exactly what the author of the article was saying. And he noted Barton as an example of what is wrong with the game. I can't imagine that he meant "warrior" (or "violent" or "crude" or "spiteful") as a compliment.

lookout123 02-25-2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

I can't imagine that he meant "warrior" as a compliment.
Yeah, that could be it. I hear "warrior" used as a compliment to some of the rough and tumble "hard men" of english football like John Terry who the media adores, so I may have just been reading the guy wrong.

Flint 02-25-2008 11:08 AM

I will say that society has a precedent of treating someone who behaves dangrously enough as malicious, IE a drunk driver:
stupid, dangerous, not meaning to cause harm, yet putting himself in a situation where harm is cause due to his actions.

Cloud 02-25-2008 03:27 PM

Daughter No. 2 has left her husband. This is the third serious relationship she's had, and left but as much as this sucks, she did the right thing, after hearing her side of the story.

Family is devastated, because this child just cannot get a break, and we so were hoping she'd found someone good. Now she's on her own, with no home, no vehicle, and two small children. Not to mention a thousand or so miles away.

:(


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