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HungLikeJesus 03-23-2012 06:39 PM

But how else would you represent a singular antecedent that is gender-neutral and indefinite when you want to use an anaphor that is bound by its antecedent?

wolf 03-23-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 803138)
Imma. gonna say it just to be a troll: George Zimmerman
don't look all that " white" to me.

I know. What a racist.

He isn't. He's Hispanic. Or at least half-Hispanic.

If he were white-white instead of a deep beige, protesters would be burning down DisneyWorld.

HungLikeJesus 03-23-2012 06:41 PM

I think you're avoiding the more important issue.

infinite monkey 03-23-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 803299)
But how else would you represent a singular antecedent that is gender-neutral and indefinite when you want to use an anaphor that is bound by its antecedent?

um. 5? :bonk:

wolf 03-23-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 803196)
What's the point of a trial when under Floriduh law he's going to be found not guilty? It would be a show trial and the verdict would probably cause even more anger and possible riots.

Tain't necessarily so.

Listen carefully to the 911 tape, ignore the inflammatory comment for the time being.

He followed the kid around in his car.

Of course, we don't know what happened, but on it's face it would appear that a cop wannabe who made forty or so calls to 911 in the preceeding weeks and did not identify himself as Neighborhood Watch to the 911 dispatcher on this incident who told him not to follow the teen. Could he have provoked the situation that lead to the shooting?

I'm hoping to be able to listen to Michael Smerconish's show on Monday. He said today that he was going to go over the case point by point based on public information about the case. Should be interesting.

Stand Your Ground <> Stalk Through The Neighborhood.

sexobon 03-23-2012 07:10 PM

If Florida would take the guns away from its law enforcement officers, then cop wannabes wouldn't have them to shoot people with either. Problem solved.

Aliantha 03-23-2012 07:17 PM

I thought it was 'Floorduh'...

Big Sarge 03-23-2012 11:26 PM

I always thought it was legal to shoot someone wearing a hoodie. I guess I might need to change our policy & procedures manual.

ZenGum 03-24-2012 12:15 AM

Sarge, you've jumped from "should be" to "is".

Nice to see ya, BTW.

TheMercenary 03-24-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 802913)
Trayvon Martin

Go, go, go NRA

Why don't you want the process of investigation and due process to play out? Your statements confirm that you have convicted this shooter. Why don't you go to Florida and try to hang him?

TheMercenary 03-24-2012 12:21 AM

Jessie Jackson is such a cock sucker...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...,2131299.story

xoxoxoBruce 03-24-2012 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 802979)
Do they? I think they're at record lows. But the latest data I could find was from 2008, so that may have changed.

Could be, I have no Idea, and all the better, because the point was to make a statement as stupid as the one I quoted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 803208)
If he's found not guilty because of "stand your ground", rather than some technicality or exculpatory information yet to be mentioned, it may be useful for altering the "stand your ground" law for the better.

The Florida legislator that introduced that law in the first place, is saying it's being distorted and abused by the police, and he intends to amend it to make that clear.

sexobon 03-24-2012 01:31 AM

In The Hoodie (to the tune of In The Ghetto)

As the lights shine on a warm and mild Florida night
A neighboring young man is doin' alright in his hoodie

And his mama doesn't know 'bout something that she doesn't need
It's that his soul is soon to be freed from his hoodie

People, don't you understand they need a helping hand?
Or this will surely be a no man's land some day

Take a look at you and me, are we too blind to see
Do we simply turn our heads and look the other way?

Well the world turns and the young neighbor man in hooded clothes
Walks down the street as a warm breeze blows o'er his hoodie

And his temper flares under a watchful eye
And he learns to resist and he learns how to die in his hoodie

Then one day in desperation a community protests away. They call for an arrest, call for a trial, try to dispel the claims, but they don't get far
And his mama cries

As people rally around the young neighbor man
Who was killed in the street with nothing in his hand but his hoodie

Though a young neighbor man died on that warm and mild Florida night
Another local young man is feelin' alright wearin' his hoodie

And his mama cries.

footfootfoot 03-24-2012 08:18 AM

That is awesome, sexobon.

classicman 03-24-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 803208)
If he's found not guilty because of "stand your ground", rather than some technicality or exculpatory information yet to be mentioned, it may be useful for altering the "stand your ground" law for the better.

Agreed. Although this case has NOTHING to do with the "Stand your Ground" law.

This case is about some asswipe who stalked a kid, chased him down and then shot him after instigating the altercation.
Show me ANYTHING in the "Stand your Ground" law that covers that reality.
Using that law is an abuse of it, by his lawyer.
Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 803300)
He isn't. He's Hispanic. Or at least half-Hispanic.
If he were white-white instead of a deep beige, protesters would be burning down DisneyWorld.

Yup. Stop interjecting your damn facts or the extremists will have nothing with which to argue. :rolleyes:
Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 803306)
Tain't necessarily so.

Listen carefully to the 911 tape, ignore the inflammatory comment for the time being.

the 911 dispatcher on this incident who told him not to follow the teen.
Could he have provoked the situation that lead to the shooting?

A) The dispatcher said "We don't need you to do that. He never specifically said NOT to do so.
Quote:

Stand Your Ground <> Stalk Through The Neighborhood.
Agreed.

Listen to the audio yourself. See if you hear what the asswipe says at 1:52 on the audio.

You tell me if he says "fucking coons"

This POS hunted this kid down and killed him intentionally. He was looking for glory and wanted an altercation.
IMO, he deserves all that he gets ... and I hope he rots in jail for it.


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