I saw one on Top Gear the other night. James May and the short one were racing a Panamera against a post card mailed from Cornwall to the Orkneys via the Royal Mail, overnight delivery.

They lost.

...and Glatt gets 15 points, with 3 points deducted for derogatory wordplay, for a total of 12 extra points.

Wait, what? What do I get for not kicking it out of bed for eating crackers?

As for me, it was the back end that made it unmistakably Porsche. I think it's an ugly back end, but recognizable.

Make of that what you will. I still wouldn't kick it out of bed for eating crackers.

I never said I would kick it out of bed. It's just a little silly for a Porsche. Nowhere near as bad as that horrible Cayanne, which is useful for getting the kids to soccer practice at 80 mph through suburban neighborhoods.

glatt, your clubs won't fit in your Lambo, and you have to borrow your trophy wife's wheels to play golf at "the" club. You'd be the laughing stock of the 19th hole showing up in a minivan or domestic SUV.

If you can afford that Cayanne without selling a child, there's a good chance you are very class conscience. You also know any sign of status drop will cause your peers to go for the throat. :haha:

Not to be confused with the Cayman, which struck me as attractive. Looks like a toad.

I've ridden in a Cayenne, which outperforms the Cayman - but still struck me as the poor cousin of the BMW X5. Although I admit the Cayman is attractive. The toad thing adds to its charm. ;)

I don't think so, the Cayman gives up about 25 horsepower to the Cayenne, (although the Cayman S has 25 more than the Cayenne) but the Cayenne is 1400 lbs heavier.

That's why the Cayman can do a 5.4 0-to-60 and 165 mph, (4.7 and 175 for the S), opposed to the Cayenne's 7.1 sec and 142 mph.
Oh yes, I'm not a Porsche fan, nor sports cars in general, but took a liking to the toad style right away. :thumb:

I admit, the BMW X5 is heavy and has a 7 sec 0-60 and a limited top speed. Since no eastern US highway permits anything close to its top speed, that's a non-issue. The X5 has reasonable cargo volume and is quick enough to leave the fastest pickup in the dust, which is all that's required in Pennsyltucky. ;)

What I'd really love would be a vehicle that could go off-road across my property in the event of snowstorms and get me to sources of food and sand ... and also let me leave the bad boys sucking dust.

In fact I don't know of any road around here where you can do 142 and expect to not get arrested.

What I really need is my 2005 Toyota 4Runner back ... that was my baby. I drove her all over our property and down our front field when we were snowed in ... but now she's out in Colorado. The only way I'll get her back is to buy something else for my daughter and drive her back east. That would be an interesting drive.

I may still do that.

It's got a hemi.

Jim ... what is this bad boy/girl?

Whoa whoa whoa, I said absolutely nothing about any BMW, I was disputing your claim that the Cayenne outperforms the Cayman. It does not.

What you mean is, it goes fast enough for your driving style.

I do and have.

There are short stretches of road in between jurisdictions that have virtually no enforcement because there is nowhere for a cop to hide, and each jurisdiction just doesn't care. To patrol that area would take them out into the other jurisdiction where they would have to turn around and come back.

The 2 mile long bridge (and associated access ramps) between Lewiston and Aurburn ME is an example. I was in a 944 that got up to 120 or so in that two mile stretch. Never seen a cop on that stretch of road.

If you watch Seinfield's Comedians in Cars getting Coffee, he often gets on a bridge or something in NYC and opens the throttle. No shoulders. No cops. Speed cameras are always a threat though, in the cities.

Thats my Commander. 2006... Limited with the 5.7 Liter Hemi (350 ci).

11.4 mpg..... yeah. Not so great on gas, but when you put the pedal down, your neck muscles get a work out.

I lifted it 2", put 1.25" wheel spacers on each side, replaced the mushy factory shocks with high pressure Bilstiens, and put 31" Nitto Dura Grappler tires on the American Racing 'Fuel' rims. It used to have BF Goodrich Mud Terrains, but they were so loud, I couldn't hear my radio with the windows down.

It has heated leather seats, navigation, dvd player, automatic rain sense wipers, etc. All the buttons to push.

You can drive it through or over anything. Jeep only puts the Trail Rated badge on cars that can do the Rubucon trail in Stock set up. And even though its 5200 lbs, it gets to 60 in 7 seconds. 330 hp, 375 lbs ft of torque.

I love it.