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jester 05-16-2007 04:45 PM

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this sign says it all......:p

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BigV 05-17-2007 03:41 PM

$3.76 / gal regular yesterday.

HungLikeJesus 05-17-2007 06:04 PM

CNN had an interesting article on gas prices: Behind high gas prices: The refinery crunch.

The article says that no new refineries have been built in the US since 1976, and discusses how this affects gas prices.

xoxoxoBruce 05-17-2007 10:19 PM

Why build expensive refineries when you can just raise the price for more profit? The greenies support this also because they feel increased price is the way to cut consumption.

HungLikeJesus 05-17-2007 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 344263)
Why build expensive refineries when you can just raise the price for more profit? The greenies support this also because they feel increased price is the way to cut consumption.

Don't you?

And, what's a greeny?

xoxoxoBruce 05-17-2007 10:24 PM

An environmentalist.

piercehawkeye45 05-17-2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HLJ (Post 344266)
And, what's a greeny?

Environmentalists mostly.

Basically people that follow the Green Party.

Shawnee123 05-18-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 344263)
Why build expensive refineries when you can just raise the price for more profit? The greenies support this also because they feel increased price is the way to cut consumption.

It hasn't cut consumption...yet. I wonder what price will be the breaking point? Scary thought.

freshnesschronic 05-18-2007 01:20 PM

3.49 in suburbs of Chicago. Is it really 4.25 in Cali??? Sorry I haven't kept up with the thread.

xoxoxoBruce 05-18-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 344381)
It hasn't cut consumption...yet. I wonder what price will be the breaking point? Scary thought.

I don't know, but read somewhere a prediction of $4.50 before it starts to affect SUV sales. That would be the first sign, evidently.

Happy Monkey 05-18-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 344381)
It hasn't cut consumption...yet. I wonder what price will be the breaking point? Scary thought.

Apparently there actually was a driving cutback over the past year.

Shawnee123 05-18-2007 02:40 PM

It looks to be more of "it's not increasing at the same rate" rather than serious cutting down (for the most part.) It's a start. But wait a minute...look who did the study:
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"You have demographic shifts, traffic congestion and increased gas prices," says Ed McMahon, senior research fellow at the Urban Land Institute, a non-profit group that promotes innovative development. "For the first time in recent history, the rate of vehicle miles traveled is not increasing at the rate it was for 25 years. It's having an effect and is changing in subtle ways the way people think about their driving."
He should be delivering my American Family Publishing Sweepstakes check, not conducting gas use studies. :rolleyes:

Happy Monkey 05-18-2007 03:08 PM

Not increasing at the same rate as the population means that people are cutting back. Not enough to counteract the larger number of people, though.

Shawnee123 05-18-2007 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 344458)
Not increasing at the same rate as the population means that people are cutting back.

True. Duh to me.

:o

xoxoxoBruce 05-18-2007 03:26 PM

I wonder if that data includes commercial traffic as well as personal vehicles? I'm betting the trucks rolling into walmart, supermarkets and home depot haven't reduced.


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