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classicman 10-06-2008 06:22 PM

V - even if all that is as you say, which I think is a actually a skewed view of the situation, what did the current congress do to change that? What have they done to rectify the situation? Did they even attempt to change the regulations to pre 2000? Did they take any action to force lenders to do.....anything different or did they just throw $700,000,000,000.00 at the problem and at the same time pay themselves and another $110,000,000,000.00 in pork?

From what I can tell absolutely nothing.

tw 10-06-2008 06:23 PM

Bail? Why should I bail? This is a Republican administration. That means the government will do it for me. All you lesser income people who are not entitled to my 14% Federal tax rate - you must keep working. After all, Uncle Sam will need your cash to protect our tax cuts.

But again, more socialism provided by Republican party wackos. Only poor people pay taxes. That also is Cheney socialism.

classicman 10-06-2008 06:27 PM

I'm sorry I missed where the republicans were pushing this bill and threatening if it didn't pass to pull it off their, oh so busy, schedules.

tw 10-06-2008 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 490493)
I'm sorry I missed where the republicans were pushing this bill

You mean the Fed, Treasury and White House are not Republicans? Oh. You mean all that legislation these past eight years that made businesses more responsible were not Republicans? You mean Harvey Pitts did not increase SEC funding to avoid these problems? You mean those recent changes to increase investment bank debt to equity ratios from 12 to 30 were not Republicans. Oh my god. You mean nobody is bailing the boat?

I must call my chauffeur so that I can get off this boat and take more money to the Cayman's. Socialism is now dead? Time to find a money friendlier economy. You guys keep bailing.

classicman 10-06-2008 07:35 PM

Thats more like it - You are so predictable.

classicman 10-07-2008 03:03 PM

Top 10 Tax Sweeteners in the Bailout Bill

It was a pain to copy each individually, but take a look at how congress works. Its not bad enough that we are, according to some of them, on the edge of financial ruin, and need to spend $700,000,000,000.00 of our money, but they also STOLE an extra $115,000,000,000,00 [thats over 16% additional] for their own pet projects just to get this DO NOTHING bill passed. This is only the beginning - they haven't changed the regulations, nor the accounting principles that helped create this problem. This is yet another example of the poorest leadership by our elected officials.
Honestly - this one sits at the foot of the democrats - I don't wanna hear any "Bush signed it" BS. The Dems are totally in charge of this one and pass or fail - its on them.
It just passes a huge debt on to us and - oh have you heard yet? There are already rumors of another bailout.

Thanks congress.

BigV 10-07-2008 03:26 PM

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The Dems are totally in charge of this one and pass or fail - its on them.
Horseshit.

This kind of oversimplification is lazy thinking at its worst. Please don't indulge yourself like this.

The day you see a 60% Democratic majority in both houses of Congress and a Democrat in the White House--then you can honestly say it was "totally the Dems' fault/credit".

Go look for yourself, from your own link.

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Griff 10-07-2008 04:04 PM

Hold everybody individually responsible. My Rep, a Democrat, voted no.

Clodfobble 10-07-2008 05:56 PM

I was reminded today of this Jim Cramer clip from a little over a year ago.


Kitsune 10-07-2008 08:53 PM

Now that we've given them all that money, everything is all fixed. See, they're relaxing and spending money, again. No tight belts at AIG, anymore!

Quote:

AIG documents obtained by Waxman's investigators show the company paid more than $440,000 for the retreat, including nearly $200,000 for rooms, $150,000 for meals and $23,000 in spa charges.

"They're getting their pedicures and their manicures and the American people are paying for that," said Cong. Elijah Cummings (D-MD).

SamIam 10-07-2008 09:07 PM

Meanwhile, back at the spa:

Quote:

WASHINGTON (AP) - Less than a week after the federal government had to bail out American International Group Inc., the company sent executives on a $440,000 retreat to a posh California resort, lawmakers investigating the company's meltdown said Tuesday.
The tab included $23,380 worth of spa treatments for AIG employees at the coastal St. Regis resort south of Los Angeles even as the company tapped into an $85 billion loan from the government it needed to stave off bankruptcy.

The retreat didn't include anyone from the financial products division that nearly drove AIG under, but lawmakers were still enraged over thousands of dollars spent on catered banquets, golf outings and visits to the resort's spa and salon for executives of AIG's main U.S. life insurance subsidiary.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...1&cat=breaking

Heh! Great minds think alike, Kitsune.

TheMercenary 10-07-2008 09:11 PM

Does anyone feel like Balling?

ZenGum 10-07-2008 09:14 PM

If by "balling" you mean "lynching", yes.

TheMercenary 10-07-2008 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 490953)
If by "balling" you mean "lynching", yes.

No, I was thinking along the line of some other kind of "Balling"....

Trilby 10-07-2008 09:32 PM

Ball gags and whips?

:whip:

That's too good for them.

Who didn't see this coming? You KNOW what they're gonna do with the next 700 billion we give them, don't you?

That's right: Chuck Norris jeans, cowboy boots, big screen TV's, cocaine and Courvosier.


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