I'm confused by the events of the last page... can't people remove the images they posted for themselves, by editing the post?
I never saw the pics in question, so whatever. I was just wondering about that.


Anyway, an oldie but a goody on the subject of political euphamisms:

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/ima...er-cartoon.jpg

Yes, but only for a short period of time. Like a day or so. If you go back to your older posts, you will see that you can't edit them.

Ibram, you bitched about my post, and then you post that?

Explain to me the difference. I dare you.

I was gonna say...that's offensive to police officers.

Well, it is.

If nothing is allowed to be funny then nothing is allowed to be funny. Consistency helps us unenlightened to remember everything we're not allowed to say so we don't accidentally offend anyone. And by 'everything' I mean 'everything.'


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Wtf, House has come down in the world or what?

Oh hale, that does look like House.

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Sure thing.

When's the last time a cop got discriminated against, run out of restaurants, beat up, kicked off flights, unfairly treated or suspected by society in general? When's the last time it happened on a massive scale?

There are legitimate problems to have with the law enforcement institutions in our country. They actually DO have, in almost every single district and precinct studied, a tendency to institute and enforce racially biased policy. That is something that should not be the case, and something they should fix. Calling attention to the problem is actually an important thing for us, as society, to do, even when we do it through humour.

There is NO legitimate reason to call the president a muslim threat to America, or to put signs up (or laugh at other people putting signs up) saying 'LOL NO MUZLIMS IN HEER CUZ PORK GO MURKA," any more than it would be funny to me to put a sign up outside a polish restaurant saying "you'd never see a darkie eating this stuff! No blacks here!" I think it contributes to the daily persecution many muslims in America face.

I think jokes about minorities, especially ones that only help further stigmatize the minority and help create the culture of oppression and separation, belong firmly in the "tasteless" thread, if anywhere. It's not just about being PC. it's about not making peoples lives worse. It's about basic human decency.

Well said Ibs.

Oh. I see now. It's because you're so elevated above me. Is that because I'm from Kentucky, because I'm not college ejamuhcated, or what?

What you said is mealy-mouthed double talk. What you said is "yours wasn't funny cuz it hurt my feelings, and mine's ok, cuz I'm the one who said it."

And if that ain't it, you are a racist.

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Yes, you're really showing your classiness grav.

If I may interject, gravdigr, did you read the post in full? Because what you're saying Ibram said is completely different from what he actually said. Maybe you should read it again.

http://media.caglecartoons.com/media...111642_600.jpg

And he saved it!

Oh, good. Cuz, classy was what I was going for.:neutral:

I'm offended because I'm not 'stay at home' nor am I a mom and neither are you so how dare comment on it.

I'm sorry. I luvz y'all but I don't really get who gets to be in charge of what is offensive and what is not.

It's tiresome anymore. And it's egocentric to think you're the decider. Is anyone else thinking this? Can anyone else express how tiring it is? How wrong it is...how absolutely hypocritical "don't point people out for things because it's offensive" yet pointing out every single thing that anyone says that might seem offensive to YOU is?

LIghten up Francis. Or stay out of the joke threads.

I remember Ibs getting on someone for saying something about a brightly colored fish or something looking like an ocean drag queen.

WTF? Where does it end?

I'm tired of it. I don't care if the only other people who are vocal about their feelings on it are on the opposite side of me and jump my shit. I have balls. Sorry, was that offensive?

Now I'm gonna take my 'by the river-livin' Injun ass' down the street and get drunk and build a casino. I just offended myself. Fuck. :lol:

I'm now offended too!

But sometimes it's more fun to just respond to what you wish the person had said.

In the interest of "Maybe I Missed/Misread Something", I did, per your suggestion, go back and read the post again. I even read parts of it a third time. Thank you for your concern.
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I just remembered where I was...

I apologize, sincerely, if anyone (besides Ibram) is irrevocably offended by my statements/postings.

It was my intent to share humor, but, when there are those who willingly throw away any semblance of humor an image may have had, to make an effort to find offense, where none was inferred, fuck it.

Just, fuck it.

Over a fucking BBQ sign.

Mmmmm. BBQ. :yum:

You should fill that out before turning it in.

Every now and again, someone will post a cartoon or joke and someone else will find it offensive, or consider it to have crossed a line, they comment to that effect. One or two people then comment to the same effect and one or two other people claim we're all going to hell in a handcart because of PC bullshit or words to that effect.

This is no different to the way it has always been. Nor will it be any different in the future. It isn't a big deal (a joke crossed someone's line) nor does it indicate any change in tone or levels of acceptance on the Cellar (a joke crossed someone's line).

The only 'butthurt' I see going on here is Grav flouncing about the place making a massive noise because his jokes crossed someone's line. Get over it.

I did.

Your turn.

My turn for what?

I think he was makin a joke, but ya never know with that crazy Gravy.

In any case, I think we have a "political pictures" thread and a separate "tasteless jokes" thread for a reason, and the tasteless and offensive sorts of jokes should stay in the tasteless thread. That's all I was saying. That's not butthurt. That's just wanting to keep the shit where the shit belongs.

Moving along

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Go back and read your first statement.

And your opinion affects me, how?

But the fly in your ointment, or vice versa, is it ain't your choice.
I realize that everything you don't agree with is oppression, repression, inhumane, and beyond the bounds of human decency, but boy are you gonna shit when you get to the real world. :rolleyes:

"I, for one... REALLY don't find islamophobia funny. I find it nasty and offensive."
 

Well, I DO find it funny, so: bring it on folks! I'm all for bashing any and all fanaticisms.

Bash Mohammed! Bash Jesus! Bash Moses! Bash Republicans! Bash Democrats! Bash Libertarians! Bash Straights! Bash Gays! Bash Bi's! Bash Cross-dressers!
Bash the Married, the Single, the Clean, the Dirty, the Sane, the Insane, Women, Men, Children, and on and on and on...bash 'em ALL!

Humor is about taking taboo and pissing on it.

Grow up.

An anarchist, sociopath, conservative loner walked into a bar and asked to buy a drink. The bartender told him they don't sell drinks, people pay taxes to the bar and get welfare drinks in return.

That's when he passed out.

I'm offended: I'm not a conservative... ;)

The "problem" the post in question, and its sign saying NO MUSLIMS HERE!11!1!, was "drawing attention" to, was the fact that muslims are problems. That's not okay in my book, and not a legitimate topic of humour. The sign was not ironic, was not trying to draw attention to the plight of marginalized minority groups in america - it was just islamophobic and gross. Mine, on the other hand, while possibly making light of whatever perceived hardships police face, also humorously draws attention to the very real problem of police brutality, especially with regards to minority communities.

I don't see where I contradicted myself. The place of humour to draw attention to problems with society should be, at risk of sounding self-parodying, restricted to things that -I- think are problems! Or, more accurately, they should be restricted to problems that aren't born from racism, bigotry, hatred, and intolerance. Because none of those "problems" (like the "problem" of Muslims in Amerca) are problems - they are symptoms of the underlying hate and prejudice.

It doesn't. Or rather, it only does if you have a problem with me making very vocal and clear what my problems with bigoted posts are. I'm not going to stop "bitching" about racism, sexism, heterosexism, cissexism, and just about every other form of prejudice, bigotry, and out-and-out filth I come across. Even if all I do is piss the offenders off, rather than making them "see the error of their ways", or changing their behavior, I think it is one of my moral responsibilities to confront that wherever I come across it. I can't make you or anyone else behave like a kind, accepting, understanding, humane, basically decent person - but I can point out when that's not how it looks to me.

Dude that Rocks.....

Now if we can just get Michelle to tell us about wanting to divorce O. Hussein Obama after he lost a race in Ill. we would have something!

Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Your problem is you think everyone sees things as you do. How the fuck do you know people aren't laughing at the dumb redneck that posted the sign?

That I believe.

BINGO, that you think are problems.
You can think anything you want, but that neither makes it true, or gives you the right to tell anyone else what they must think.
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you are the one who makes the rules for the application of humor, your pompousness.

You left out Truth, Justice, and the American Way.:rolleyes:
If you continue to deliberately "piss off" the people you've labeled, "offenders", prepare to get your ass kicked.
It'll be interesting to see what happens when you grow up and discover your opinion carries no more weight than anyone else's.

now ^THAT^ was a lecture.

I confess that was exactly how the picture appeared to me.

I suppose if I'd thought Grav was anti-muslim in some way I might have seen it differently but he's never given me that impression.

I thought it was anti-muslim. But I don't think Grav is anti-muslim.

Nobody has the right to tell anyone what to think. But then nobody has the right to demand that someone else not be offended.

That's the thing when you post a joke on here. Sometimes someone finds it offensive and says so. No big deal. Just a joke that caused a little offense, intentionally or otherwise.

Here's a funny political video. :sweat:

I stand by my statement I misspoke and I apologize. I stand by my statement I misspoke and I apologize. I stand by my statement I misspoke and I apolo...
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Compare and contrast:

(Just one or two of the pictures don't make this pointed point. Yeah, it's mean. But funny!)

http://theobamadiary.com/2012/05/24/more-mitt-mania/

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