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Trilby 01-11-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 704833)
I did not think schizophrenics as a rule were known for violent behavior towards others.

they can - esp. if paranoid. this guy sounds paranoid.

Shawnee123 01-11-2011 10:11 AM

Heh, yeah, a catatonic schizophrenic doesn't really bother anyone.

http://psychcentral.com/lib/2006/typ...schizophrenia/

Spexxvet 01-11-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 704830)
So am I supposed to do anything about them?

*Don't* sell them a gun.

HungLikeJesus 01-11-2011 01:33 PM

Weren't there similar issues with the guy at Virginia Tech?

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Cho's underlying psychological diagnosis at the time of the shootings remains a matter of speculation.[53] However, the lack of speech that resulted in the diagnosis of selective mutism could have been an early indication that Cho was developing schizophrenia. One symptom of schizophrenia is what is known as "poverty of speech," referring to a marked deficit in the amount of talking the person engages in. In addition, Cho's manifesto provides evidence of both paranoid and grandiose delusions. Such symptoms are also associated with schizophrenia, and it has been argued that Cho was schizophrenic.[54]

Shawnee123 01-11-2011 01:36 PM

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In middle school, he was diagnosed with a severe anxiety disorder known as selective mutism, as well as major depressive disorder.[8] After this diagnosis he began to receive treatment and he continued receiving therapy and special education support until his junior year of high school. During Cho's last two years at Virginia Tech, several instances of his abnormal behavior, as well as plays and other writings he submitted containing references to violence, caused concern among teachers and classmates.

In the aftermath of the Virginia Tech massacre, Virginia Governor Tim Kaine convened a panel consisting of various officials and experts to investigate and examine the response and handling of issues related to the shootings. The panel released its final report in August 2007, devoting more than 30 pages to detailing Cho's troubled history. In the report, the panel criticized the failure of the educators and mental health professionals who came into contact with Cho during his college years to notice his deteriorating condition and help him. The panel also criticized misinterpretations of privacy laws and gaps in Virginia's mental health system and gun laws. In addition, the panel faulted Virginia Tech administrators in particular for failing to take immediate action after the first shootings. Nevertheless, the report did acknowledge that Cho was still primarily responsible for not seeking assistance and for his murderous rampage.[9]
From wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho

plthijinx 01-11-2011 02:06 PM

i'm so busy with work on the weekends that i didn't find out about this until the 5 o'clock news yesterday. that guy is a wacko! when i saw the little girl, i cried.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-11-2011 07:07 PM

In other, ahem, news, left-wing chatterers and statist Democrats continue to think and behave abominably:

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. . . buried in a long article on the shooting, Politico online magazine quoted an unnamed "veteran Democratic operative" advising the administration to "pin" the shooting on the Tea Party movement. "They need to deftly pin this on the tea partiers," stated the Democrat. "Just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and anti-government people."

Politico noted in passing that "That horror, which killed 168 people including many children, helped then-President Bill Clinton stigmatize extreme anti-government rhetoric and re-energize his presidency at a time when Newt Gingrich and conservative Republicans were riding high in Congress." (11)

A second unnamed "Democratic strategist" also compared the Tucson shooting and the Oklahoma City bombing, saying that both "take place in a climate of bitter and virulent rhetoric against the government and Democrats."
From http://www.nolanchart.com/article8259.html

With opinionmaking of this kind, does any human being continue as left-wing? Or is it now strictly the habitation of thieves and their dupes?

Happy Monkey 01-11-2011 07:38 PM

So if any Republicans take the advice of the unnamed "veteran Democratic operative" and call him a liberal because he had Marx on his reading list (but don't mention Ayn Rand), then any right-winger isn't human and the Republican Party is strictly the habitation of thieves and their dupes?

DanaC 01-11-2011 08:06 PM

Aheh.
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quoted an unnamed "veteran Democratic operative"
It seems your chaps have been learning some bad habits from our journos. Really, Urbane, I expected better of you than that. Don't get me wrong, I still think you're a wack job, but you don't usually come across as naive.


Lamplighter 01-11-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 705058)
In other, ahem, news, left-wing chatterers and statist Democrats continue to think and behave abominably:

From http://www.nolanchart.com/article8259.html

With opinionmaking of this kind, does any human being continue as left-wing? Or is it now strictly the habitation of thieves and their dupes?

There are still some dupes and a few thieves in the left-wing, but most snuck over into the right-wing several years ago.

plthijinx 01-11-2011 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 705064)
Aheh.

It seems your chaps have been learning some bad habits from our journos. Really, Urbane, I expected better of you than that. Don't get me wrong, I still think you're a wack job, but you don't usually come across as naive.

nicely put and informative.

BigV 01-11-2011 10:06 PM

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It matters not. Please, friends, I beseech you.

Sheldonrs 01-12-2011 08:00 AM

Now Sarah Palin is accusing the left of blaming her for the shootings.
I swear if she went hunting with Dick Cheney and he accidently shot her like he did his friend, she'd STILL blame a democrat for it!

I have not ANYONE blame her. They have just pointed out that this is a good time to re-think what we say and post.

This whiny bitch needs to find an ice flow and stay there.

Griff 01-12-2011 08:56 AM

Robert Wright makes an interesting point this morning. The really dangerous speech is that which labels our fellow countrymen as outsiders. All we can really ask is that people stick to the truth as best they understand it. As Roger Ailes said, “I told all of our guys, shut up, tone it down, make your argument intellectually.”

DanaC 01-12-2011 09:05 AM

Nobody could possibly say that anybody but the man who fired the gun is ultimately responsible for this. But people who take up a role in politics, and therefore step up to be amongst the nations leaders and opinion formers, have a responsibility not to knowingly fan the flames of violence and political intolerance. To my mind that is a very basic responsibility for those who would seek any role in governance. Your word carries a different weight to the words of others.


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