I know Greek, Just I cant see it well enough on my retarded glass monitor.

Also, I've been reading DDD, and there are references to WOEBEGONE, and SNOW.

There is something about the Hotel being as woebegone as a dog in the rain or something like that. It's the only time that word was used in the book.

There is also quite an obsession with snow, shoveling snow, snowstorms...

Edit: And I was just looking around on the rest of the site, the background sound on HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME? is a forest ambience slowed waaaaay down. Record it and speed it up about 700% in Sound recorder and you'll hear it.

Edit: And the reference to Photomosaics on that page with the windmills and the circles could refer to how each image loads in slices. I only know that they load that way because of my horrid 56k dialup. Finally, it becomes helpful... Anyway, I'm going to try speeding up other ambience sounds on the site, see what I get.

Another Edit: Man, I'm becoming like wavinator! See:
Wavinator Posts

Anyhoo, what's the signifigance of 'Another corpse'? I haven't finished DDD yet...

Still another Edit: Also I remember someone saying that the text under the avatars on the official forums were anagrams... Anyone remember when Mr. TINP posted here? Remember his sig? "I taste Metal"... could it be an anagram? I don't know, I'm REALLY bad with them.

http://www.lighthousedepot.com/database/Photos/4694.jpg

the Marken Lighthouse, managed by the IJsselmeer area dictoriate,

Tower Height: 51

Height of Focal Plane: 53

Characteristic and Range: White flash every 8 seconds, visible for 9 nautical miles.

Description of Tower: White conical brick tower, attached to a two-story dwelling.


This light is operational


Earlier Towers?
1700: Square stone tower (demolished in 1839).

Date Established: 1700

Date Present Tower Built: 1839

Date Automated: 1990

Current Use: Active aid to navigation.

Open To Public? Grounds only.

You never know when this stuff will come in handy...

PS: Wow three posts in a row!!! don't ban me!!!

And I think we're about due for another compilation af page locations and usrnames/pwds

It's so cool that you are lloking and finding all this stuff. Having new people excited in the puzzle is refreshing, simply because we know we aren't in so deep and that others can come in with new ideas.

However, there is some stuff you mention and wonder about that we have already figured out. It gets repetative and a bit annoying when you ask questions that have already been answered. Try going back through this thread and reading all the posts (which is a hefty task, but we've all done it). Maybe you'll gain a greater understanding than what you have now.

Again, though, this is awesome that you are doing all this. I mean, the more people we have working on the problems, the more likely we are to figure things out.

Oven Page is back up.

I have no mouth.", "And I.", "must scream."

Really old, I was reading the posts and I immediately recognized this as an old-school Resident Evil Type game that I am quite fond of. See page 12.

This is strange:
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/ redirects to
http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/ which is currently down (priestx, are you working on getting the forum back up?)

But,
www.thisisnotporn.com/forums (without the slash) redirects to
http://www.krisboruff.com/forums/ which gives a 404 message.
http://www.krisboruff.com/ exists, but it is an empty page.

krisboruff.com has always existed. I can't remember if it was just a re-direct to thisisnotporn.com or not.

And I noticed the same things you did, Deius. That's why I had trouble getting the URL of the new forums, because I was typing it without the slash.

That song... Was it always the oven page's sound?

When I hear it, I hear that baby noise, but there is also the constant sound of flowing water, and what sounds to me like a chainsaw. More a circular saw, actually. And it'll cut out with a radio static noise and come back in a few seconds later. In each of these 'radio pauses', the 'background sound' can be clearly heard, either the "saw", or the "baby" (which sounds more like a fly to me).

This guy is way too obsessed with water. Its a little disturbing.

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

If this hasn't been posted before, I MAY HAVE FOUND PART OF OUR ANSWER.
In the help me I'm drowning popup's source code is a set of dates and times. I'll get them.

Please, please, please, please read the rest of this thread. This topic is mentioned only two pages back complete with lyrics, title, artist and a site where you can download the song.

PizzaMonkey: I have echoes of discordant_harmony and Duey both: it's great to see new folk so excited about this stuff... but you -REALLY- need to read back through the thread to see what everyone's already discussed.

Case in point:
June 6, 2005; 11:38:00AM. It's been there since the beginning (two years ago). Any current relevance? -That-, we don't know.

sorry
 

I read the whole thread now, but the bubbling water sound was not mentioned,nor was the saw noise. Also, I just forgot about the date thingy. This 60-something page thread is a lot to digest. :D

Edit: I also just got some of my friends to check it out: It's only a matter of time now, if we can't solve it with brains, we'll solve it by sheer numbers. With everyone contributing different ideas (don't worry about any more annoying repetitive posts, I didn't tell them about the thread) we might be able to solve this thing. Current count of recruits: 12

About the so-called Vigenere code, Vigenere doesn't use numbers, which the codes in TINP have. Vigenere is a set of alphabets, set up by a key word. For example, if the keyword is Knock, a table fo vigenere code would look like this.

-->(nocode) ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
-->(code 1) KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ
-->(code 2) NOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM
-->(Code 3) OPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMN
-->(Code 4) CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZAB
-->(Code 5) KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ

You'd then code the phrase like this:
First letter: use the letter corresponding to T in the first alphabet
Second letter: use the letter corresponding to H in the second alphabet...
etc. etc...

Maybe the numbers signify a change to a different alphabet, but then what is the keyword? we need to know that, or else, we can't arrange the alphabets correctly. Or each "alphabet" could actually be alphanumeric.

It is indeed :D Most of us have been reading since way back, rather than being saddled with nearly 70 pages worth of info (or mis-info as the case may be) all at once.

I believe you're right about the 'saw' noise, though I could swear someone in the last couple pages mentioned the water. (edited before posting: nope. Hm.)

At one point there were about 40 dedicated regulars (who actually posted and shared, at any rate); I think it's died off to just under 15 die-hards. Good on ya for bringing in a crop of fresh blood.

Edited after posting: Which TINP codes are you referring to? The earlier ones have been deciphered; the possibly Vigenere ones are only on Vig.htm and Near.htm. Also, the saw noise is apparently what makes up the spectrograph of Cherry Knowle (have been listening while typing).

Second (third?) edit: I didn't hear any 'water'-type noises. Shall have to pay more attention next listen. {eta: nevermind, I hear it now. Hm, again.}

the fact that the long code of capital letters appears directly above a huge picture of vigenere suggests that we need to use the vigenere method to decode it. we have tried MANY different words for the key and have still been unsuccessful. instead of rearranging the alphabets like above, have you looked for programs that decode the string for you after imputting a key?

I was thinking that the gibberish photoshopped into the pictures of the house - like 'kw3x754w3rt - whatever' may be vigenere code, but the format isn't right. And that's a good Idea. Just downloaded VBVigenere. Thank god my school lets me on the internet instead of going to gym.
/lazy bums of america plug

It's also a good thing we have outlook so I can send things to my AOL account at home.

Maybe we could try 'Vigenere' or 'Blaise de Vigenere' as the key?

AND... PAGE 70!!! W00t! w00t! *throws a funky dance par-tay.*

Remind me - I couldn't find the page after reading it - how did you guys solve the code in the Lighthouse and/or candle pic?

The gibberish from the window is turned upside-down and backwards. It decodes to using the following key and rules:

Viggy keywords can't have spaces in them (otherwise that's a good idea). It was one of the first things I tried, but VBV may give a different/better result than the program I've been using.

The second to last post in page 11 on this thread has a decent explanation; if you need more details PM me.

:D Okay now that I'm all caught up- I can be useful

Sounds like a plan.

...so, uh.. any ideas? :p

sun and Death's htm filename is FindTheDate... Maybe we need to set our system clocks to "the date" in order to answer? That would be a huge leap, even if we didn't actually know the answer.

Possibly; however, that would take a (probably) javascript-based system check ( {var thisdate = new Date();}, or something similar ), which isn't called anywhere in the source that we've seen so far, except on TheBoy.htm--which is an incomplete script to begin with.

Also, what date do you suggest? There are between 15 and 20 dates right on the photos--the immediate one that comes to mind is on date.jpg... the one(s) inside the /6/ light could be it too, though.

I'm sorry to be playing devil's advocate, here--you have some good suggestions, I just can't think of a good way to implement them.

the first thing that came to my mind was the D-day anniversary. And you never know what hidden super-triple-encrypted-programs this guy might have.

And could someone screencap that spectrogram of Cherry Knowle? I don't know how to get a spectrogram thingy.

Edit: And also, with each keyword I try, i get some coherent words, they even almost seem to fit together, and then the rest is gibberish.

on the contrary--there's only one way for {any programs he's got} to do anything with the date on my computer, and that's through a form submission (hidden or not) that feeds some sort of actual data back to his server. The only < form > on the site is on the homepage, and all it does is... well, nothing.

CDUniverse has a decent writeup about CK; the spectrogrammed image is a black-and-white version of the cover, with all text removed.

A possible start point for keywords: try finding ones that are 9, 12, or 18 letters long (the longer gibberish text is divisble by those three).

you know, maybe he's got a point... if we could just piece together the words maybe it'd form something... then again maybe not..

what happened to the whole gotanda death thing in tokyo or whatever? i thought that was where the answer lied?

oh and werent the forums supposed to be back up?

Let this be a lesson to you all, never trust you web host.

ETA: [edit] Well I get to the old TINP db.. bear with me, I know you are already, but I understand how it is to be told "hold on" when you're already there.

:3_eyes: what?

We're getting it back up now :lol:

so is your idea of getting it back up deleting it? cuz it says it doesnt exist anymore...

Mr. Ears, the forums have moved from the tinp.com servers to priestx's place--the new address is http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/ (well, it will be when they're back up, unless px changes something in the meantime).

i know that, i'm just saying that, that website says its been deleted

You hould know by now to never trust anything that happens on or having to do with TINP.
:lol:

*page 71 dance*

Edit: I'm not trying to revive the idea that the date may be being checked, but there is a call on a variable from TheBoy.htm in ths Scandinavian Imports page.

dabraa brupta bsciss eabsin tabsol vereab strakt absurd abraka aceton adacta
adhoca diafor aadlib itumad renali nadund asadve ntaffi niteta gentro managi
oagnus deiaim abelak antusa krosti konaks iomaks jonakt ørakut talarm aleksa
ndrine ralena lfaalf onsali asalib

Browsing the "wreathus" page. (By googling Ijsselmeer, tragedy, boy) this looked kind of wierd to me.

also:

don't want traces, two kinds: erasing, not attaching, truth?, what am offf
0xff?, truth?, can't stand writing, this is just memo, displacing, displeasing,
unbroken, the cat eats dog food but the bowl is broken?, the something is
constructed, a set up for the upset, chain reactions and escalation, is there
less truth in that?, unbroken chains, neural islands, the something sea, i'm
lost already responses, communication doesn't have to trace, refer, like
plucking a string, resonance intstrument autophone, 'what does it mean?', with
language it's too easy, pulcking a synthesizer, bridging, immediacy, traces are
bugging him, there's no connection, the something, i'm an idiot 'drome, cat eat
dog food, the leaves don't communicate directly (or at all), human phylogeny,
cell's protection, i'm total loss compression set, prepositions don't work,
spacetime points, blow is broken, how can titt eat?, i don't know the score,
planning points in time, this is a mess, it's all very simple, screech, if i
are not hear things would still be the mase, the clear morning dew, hi, heat my
fles, it's not esy, how can i be writing siht, dog food, fresh rain, i'd rather
not tirew, i'll code some nuff instade, that's no soluble either, still have to
vile, my ideal file would be complete tutti sole not needing to any finger, not
thinging, ok heath, but from tharea, I want some darnthing, or to pee, enjoy
the quiet sunsations of formatting, rally yeasy, this writing miss frodulent
even to mih, what's the a bruptlem? brodkorp?

The whole page is creepy gibberish. If anyone hasn't seen it yet, it is at:
http://noemata.net/wreathus/w75.txt
at
http://noemata.net/wreathus/

There is an ARCHIVE of pages like it!

I still get an "IPS Driver error" page.

Which one? "MM_popupMsg(''+(new Date()){...}"? That's a JS routine that's native to that particular page--it pops up a JS alert with the current day and time as registered on your computer, plus the phrase "De jongen zal alleen sterven." ("The boy will die alone.") I don't think there's any major significance here; it's just one more way "We" (the various pages) "AreConnected" : )

Also, TheBoy closes itself (or at least it's supposed to) less than a second after it opens. In order for any variables it set to be accessed by another .htm, it would have to have a {self.name='';} property (I believe that's the one) for the outside page to refer back to, and it would have to remain open long enough for said other page to be able to grab the variable.

Nice observation, though--I'd forgotten that Date() was called there :redface: ; it's likely worth another intense search to see if there's anything else the vets know so well that we've dismissed it.

Watch it
 

Watch your step however, there may be links to nasty content. There was a page that just repeated f*** me over and over

I really don't think this would have any effect, as many of us were actually working on this riddle on that date. Somewhere in this thread there's probably more information about that, and if not there will be at the TINP forums when they come back.



...what?



The anniversary of D-Day, Sweden's Flag Day, a couple other things occur on this date...



There was one, or a link to one, but again: I don't know if it's here or at the TINP forum.



Silver's right, though I think both his estimates are a little too high.

:eyebrow: so... how much acid was this guy on when he wrote this?

It's back up guys, and I've made a large back up to the back up so this never happens again. Who wants to update the new clue topics on the forums?

Both numbers probably are high, especially the '15' (it's probably closer to 10). I'd say the max-at-once is no lower than 30, more likely 35, based on the fact that I have 25 people on my TINP-related AIM buddylist, and there were more than that at one point but I deleted them by their own request when they moved on from TINP. Also at the height, there were also a number of people who were active on one forum or another that either never gave out their AIM name or never used it for tinp'ing. :D

First Page
 

Hi, I'm new to this experience. I have spent some time studying the source on the first page, but it appears there are no links to any other page. I've tried in Firefox and IE. IE 6 yields javascript errors. There is a hidden form with no action, and of course the javascript popup. Do I need to hex-edit the tinp.swf to find a link or something? Does this require special software?

How does one start this? Has the author closed "registration?" The forums on tinp are also gone.

For some odd reason, there is no link to the rest of the puzzle from the first page. You used to be able to click the middle of the oven and that would take you to the next page referred to as "Asia Awaits". I don't have the URL for that page, but maybe someone else does. If we give you that URL, then you can continue with the rest of the puzzle like all of us have.


EDIT: here is the URL you would usually get when you click on the oven. http://www.thisisnotporn.com/not/not.htm

It's now on a different host, www.ketadreams.com/forum/

The only person TINP related on my buddy list, is TINP.

Also, I'm getting weird redirect problems, anyone else?

I just found out that a friend of mine made it waaaayyyy past the last light. She said she was going to go back to TINP and refresh her memory on the matter, but given that the site's clearly under construction, it won't happen for a while, at least. :(

Big YAY and then big OHNO

:(

Yes, I'm getting the same problems. It's usually solved if I just copy and paste the URL into the Adress Bar.

She can find the lights page at http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/SM.htm, if she just needs to get back "in".

Thanks a bunch SilverPhoenix! I just sent it off to her now. Hopefully it'll come back to her. :D

I'm terribly sorry, I'm slightly too impatient to go through all the back pages just now (Though I have read many)... Has anyone been to the index page recently? I haven't visited TINP at all in a long time, and tonight I just sort of randomly thought about it, and I went there, and there is no longer any link to the page with the riddle about Alexander... Instead, there is a pop-up when you click the oven face that says "Would you still love someone, even if they did something really terrible?"... Also, the background track has been changed.

Sorry if I'm repeating what someone else has already said... I'll probably start going over the previous pages tomorrow... Perhaps I'll get back into the wuzzle...

We have as much of a clue as you do, truthfully.

hmm
 

The TINP forum too is down, so I am led to actually believe that the site has been taken down completely except for the first page which apologizes for the site going down.

I am starting to believe that this marks the end of the reign of mystery of TINP, and it is gone =/

Not so: as said before, the forums have a new URL.

http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/index.php?act=idx

She's been working on it, and she can't remember how to get past, but she does know that the answer's in A WILD SHEEP CHASE.

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 

It's over, it was beaten. Some guy. His name's on the forums.:(

You know, that was an April Fool's joke.

Besides, it wouldn't be over. If it was true, we'd track him own and torture him until we got answers!

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:

:worried: C'mon Thread! Don't die on me now!!!

So it's been a year and a half since I worked on the puzzle.

Did you guys ever get to the end?

Erm... No. :help:

Edit: As is said on the official forums - I think it would be a good time to start making sense of those walls codes. They may help. The status on the link into Sun and Death said "The walls are closing in."

More Edit: Maybe a list of code keys would be helpful here?

im gonna sit back and let the new blood do some stuff. im tired