Don't fit for you? Don't read the damn post.

What does that mean? The original question also remains unanswered: So how is Roosevelt's point relevant to this discussion? Simple question. Answer should be just as simple. How is Roosevelt's point relevant?

Well, I don't know what busterb's point was, but Teddy's little diatribe sounds a bit xenophobic to me. Sure, we shouldn't allow people to come over here and be citizens while at the same time working actively to overthrow the government on behalf of some foreign power, but I have no problem with "hyphenated" Americans. So someone is Mexican-American. BFD. This is an English speaking country, so if people want to get anywhere here, it would be helpful for them to learn English. If they want to speak Swahili or pig Latin in the privacy of their own homes, I couldn't care less.

As far as a person becoming in every facet an American, look at the Pennsylvania Dutch. They've been here longer than a lot of other folks, they still speak a form of German dialect among themselves, and they haven't exactly blended into the main stream. I notice that none of them have tried to blow up any government buildings lately, either.

Old Teddy made his pronouncement at the turn of the last century when this country was getting flooded with European immigrants. Folks were feeling pretty overwhelmed by them all, and you can see that in Teddy's statement. Given the times, his words were actually rather magnanimous of him.

Bully.

The root of the immigrant problem isn't really within our borders. Where we get illegal inmigrantes from are those places not blessed with a middle class visible without strong magnification. Examine the matter from that point of view: once there are opportunities at home, the illegals aren't going to have to thrash their way up the economic fish-ladder past the barriers of work skills, language, et cetera that are presented here. It's the utter paucity of opportunity at home that drives them to try their fortune here.

This is why the whole of South and Central America could use a thorough dose of libertarianism. Right now corrupt officialdom and a prevailing disenlightenment among the wealthy stand in the way of a prosperity that would be fairly easily gained otherwise.

Mari: Dutch is a form of terrorism unto its own ;)

From Mechanix Illustrated 9-1949. You can see the rest of the pictures and read the article, here. :cool:

Yes, the US does seem to have those problems. :p

I've always been (and still am) an open borders guy but our recent problem with sewer rats in the cellar kinda makes you think. I'll assume the boredom of slow replies is our friend here, but then again lack of content apparently isn't boring so what is?

That's a good question -- and that was a bad answer. Mexico still needs a visible middle class.

Then it would be Mexico with the inmigrante problem.

What part? The march? The law they were protesting?

These parts, I think.

Those would be the bits, thank you.

I wonder how many of those 700,000 are registered voters? Also, excluding illegals and children, what %tage of those eligible are registered?
Like the civil rights movement, they'd have to work on registration and getting the voters to the poll. :eyebrow:

Aztlan activists unfortunately identify with the Palestinians. (Forced off their land and all when the US map was drawn). Its the radical far left, you can find a parallel with the radical far right advocating shooting the wetbacks. Note that they are not the majority, even if they have a website and a digital camera. Nor, do I hope are the border vigilantes.