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MaggieL 08-17-2006 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Heavily laden helicopters do a short takeoff run, if they have room.

And wheels. :-)

xoxoxoBruce 08-17-2006 07:41 PM

If they don't have wheels, they lift just enough to break contact or skids on grass they'll actually slide, then start their run to pick up momentum while gaining altitude.
The rotors on a helicopter are different from the propeller on a plane. Rotors are actually a rotary wing and forward (or any direction) momentum is a great help in getting airborne, safely. A vertical ascent is the least stable situation for a helicopter and subject to an array of possible disruptions. :worried:

MaggieL 08-18-2006 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
The rotors on a helicopter are different from the propeller on a plane.

No! Really? I guess that's why my pilot's licence isn't valid for rotorcraft. (It's also why the max hover altitude is below the operating ceiling.)

I once got to see the Miss Champion do that maneuver up close and personal at Pennridge Airport, before she retired to Oshkosh. Pretty remarkable considering an autogyro rotor isn't normally powered. But an PCA-2 has a clutch that lets them spin the rotor up in flat pitch, then pop the collective getting them high enough in the air to lean forward for airspeed to keep it autorotating.

http://www.eaa.org/communications/ea...4_pitcairn.jpg

In fact a propeller is a rotary wing too..but its lift is used as thrust, so retreating blade stall isn't a limit on airspeed. Which is why the Osprey swings both ways, of course.

wolf 08-19-2006 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Which is why the Osprey swings both ways, of course.

Does that count under "don't ask, don't tell?"

xoxoxoBruce 08-23-2006 03:20 PM

Maggie, have you been to the helicopter museum in West Chester? They have a bunch of nice pieces including auto-gyros. :thumbsup:

Pangloss62 08-23-2006 03:47 PM

Auto Gyro
 
http://www.wildfreshness.com/brian/archives/gyro.jpg

MaggieL 08-23-2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Maggie, have you been to the helicopter museum in West Chester? They have a bunch of nice pieces including auto-gyros. :thumbsup:

Actually no, and I should. Ironically enough at one point at few years back I was taking flight training at the adjacent airport, but the flights were always at night.

I understand they do have an Ospery there...:-)

xoxoxoBruce 08-24-2006 08:34 PM

Yeah, the V-22 dedication was how I ended up there. I was pleasantly surprised how much stuff they have. They even had a couple early, military, one man hovercrafts. :thumb:


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