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Flint 10-24-2006 08:37 AM

The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.

skysidhe 10-24-2006 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
Karma is not about this lifetime... the law of karma is what you do in this lifetime affects what happens to you in the next. It is about reincarnation, not immediate justice.


Well , since I do not believe in reincarnation I try to live as though Karma is an immediate thing. If you are bad tempered then you will feel the effects of that. If not immediately then very soon. There are consequences. Natural ones that I consider to be karmatic. There are basic negative and positive energys that a person can feel and project outward. ( or inward ) You can say you are Buddhist all you want but if you have a bad ass temper then I would probably think the outward manifestation doesn't match the reality of the person inside.

Many religions are like this. The people do not live it outwardly. It isn't internalized spiritually. They are only on a intellectual level about their religion and it never reaches their heart.

I looked up Karma. I found alot of information that supports 'cause and effect'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

skysidhe 10-24-2006 08:41 AM

credit where it is due
 
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Originally Posted by Flint
The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.


wow, very nicely put

Flint 10-24-2006 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
Karma is not about this lifetime... the law of karma is what you do in this lifetime affects what happens to you in the next. It is about reincarnation, not immediate justice.

I think people may be confusing karma with John Lennon's "Instant Karma" . . .

Spexxvet 10-24-2006 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint
The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.

And to be conservative republican :D

morethanpretty 10-24-2006 09:19 AM

Isn't the objective of Buddhism enlightenment and knowledge? Ultimately "Nirvana"? That would explain why you become so frustrated with the willful ignorance of others (AKA stupidity). But don't be intolerant of the involuntary ignorant. And remember these things:
Ignorance is Bliss
All things are relative.

There are those people who probably believe you are ignorant and find you intolerable.

morethanpretty 10-24-2006 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
And to be conservative republican :D

I've known some very intelligent "conservative republicans" who aren't hyprocritical and do not like the hyprocritical party representations the politicians have become. Its all media, not fact. The majority of the doctrine, or ideals of the party are reasonable, those with the most media attention are not.

Flint 10-24-2006 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty
Its all media, not fact.

The Liberal Media Conspiracy strikes again.

Spexxvet 10-24-2006 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty
I've known some very intelligent "conservative republicans" who aren't hyprocritical and do not like the hyprocritical party representations the politicians have become. Its all media, not fact. The majority of the doctrine, or ideals of the party are reasonable, those with the most media attention are not.

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Originally Posted by Flint
The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception
My point was not about intelligence, hypocricy or reasonableness. It was that conservative repubicans want to force everyone else to have their values. They wouldn't have an abortion, so NOBODY should be able to have an abortion. Same with same-gender marriage, etc.

"dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?"


Think about it.

Flint 10-24-2006 09:39 AM

FLINT "is not a source" ha ha ha

morethanpretty 10-24-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
The Liberal Media Conspiracy strikes again.

The media is sensational not liberal.

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
My point was not about intelligence, hypocricy or reasonableness. It was that conservative repubicans want to force everyone else to have their values. They wouldn't have an abortion, so NOBODY should be able to have an abortion. Same with same-gender marriage, etc.

"dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?"


Think about it.

They believe that abortion is tatamount to murder. Its only logically for them to try and ban it. The same-gender marriage stuff is BS I agree. BUT they aren't trying to force their values on others, they are trying to "protect" their value. Liberal Democrats do the same thing, everyone does this, its human nature. Conservatives say that abortion and gay marriage are wrong; liberals say that prohibit either is wrong.

Back to rkz's concern: You'll be fine, take the intolerance you have for certain people and change it into sympathy/empathy/pity for those people.

Flint 10-24-2006 01:16 PM

agreed 100% on these:
 
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Originally Posted by morethanpretty
The media is sensational not liberal.

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty
...take the intolerance you have for certain people and change it into sympathy/empathy/pity for those people.


9th Engineer 10-24-2006 02:54 PM

I am intolerent of people who think that I have any responsiblity to them in any way. I whole heartedly agree with live and let live, and by that same measure with live and let die. Combine this with my philosophy that charity and philanthropy are to be applauded, but any good work by an individual that they could not choose is neither.

Urbane Guerrilla 10-29-2006 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
. . . charity and philanthropy are to be applauded, but any good work by an individual that they could not choose is neither.

Involuntary charity is indistinguishable from taxation.

Excessive taxation invariably decays an economy and that is a direct cause of general poverty. This is what collapsed the western provinces of the Roman Empire.

Buddug 10-30-2006 06:38 AM

9th engineer is a true soldier , and as such he has my respect .


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