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DanaC 02-11-2007 05:02 PM

mmm Wild boar. I forgot about wild boar. Good sausages!

jinx 02-11-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 314742)
Yep, I also forgot wild boar. Very tasty.
A friend of ours has Meatfest every year. It's... interesting. (His site seems to crash FF tho. Not cool.) :elkgrin:

I worked at a restaurant that had a Game Night every year. It was a major event that the chefs prepared for for several days in advance, and the staff did lots of tasting. I couldn't even tell you what all I've eaten...

xoxoxoBruce 02-11-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Ghost (Post 314747)
Remember -

3 lbs. venison to 1 lbs. 80% lean ground beef.
Keeps the venison moist while cooking it.

Pork works better. ;)

Crimson Ghost 02-11-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 314798)
Pork works better. ;)

Just depends on what ya prefer.

Hoof Hearted 02-11-2007 08:33 PM

I grew up only a mile or so from the Beefalo Ranch in Tracy, CA in the 70s(?). We would buy frozen boxes of beefalo burgers there. HUGE burgers that did not shrink at all when you cooked them! Taste was great.
StepDad fished/hunted and I've had Elk and Deer, though I don't care for deer and prefer elk stew, not steak. I've been told that elk is similar to horse meat in texture and lean-ness.

I have horses, and have owned horses for more than 35 years. I believe slaughter is necessary for the horses, though I would find it difficult to eat them, knowing they may have been someone's pet. Funny, that. I always named our butcher beef...though they were names like Sir Loin and Rumpy Roast.
IF, however, I ever make it to Iceland I would try horse there. They raise horse herds specifically as meat animals much as we do cattle and sheep. The quality Icelandic horses are the ones they train/ride/show/sell. If it doesn't gait, has poor conformation or has a poor temperament, it goes to the meat-herd. What a great cull-system to keep their breed pure and of high quality.

Anyway, it doesn't matter WHAT they are slaughtered for, human consumption, fertilizer, pet food...whatever...it is still slaughter. What difference the body is used for after the horse is gone?
People who love their horses and have the means available to them (some don't due to $ or local laws) will make arrangements to prevent their horse from going to a slaughter plant when the time comes (mine have been euth/buried) but the rest of the horses NEED the slaughter plants or they will suffer untold indignities of abuse and starvation because there is nowhere to go for an unuseable horse.
I do not think the non-human-consumption of horse carcass uses can absorb the overflow of the human-consumption carcasses that will now need to be utilized. I don't know what this will do to the sale prices where the killers purchased the unwanted horses for slaughter. How many people will be forced to take their unwanted horses home, and what will happen to them, then?

I would much prefer to see MORE slaughter plants across the country that accept horses and better shipping for the horses TO these plants. What this (slaughter for human consumption ban) may mean, is horses will now be shipped to Canada and Mexico, which have very few regulations and moral compuctions about handling, to be slaughtered.

Yeah, you bleeding-heart-activists, you've succeeded in halting slaughter of horses for human consumption in the USA, now the horses will have even LONGER trips in trucks, passing over borders into countries with few regulations, poorly trained staff and will suffer who-knows-what indignities before their end at whatever slaughter practice that plant uses.

I would prefer them to stay in the USA and meet their end at the hands of an employee who is trying to do a good job and not overly stress the animal while preserving its dignity.

Sorry for the lengthy horse-post. It struck a nerve.
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Beestie 02-11-2007 09:24 PM

I'm sure I must be missing something but I thought the big three meats were chicken, beef and pork with lamb a distant fourth.

I had ostrich carpaccio once. Tasted like ostrich.

Squirrel meat is too tough - no fat in it. Hyper little buggers.

Never had horse, elk, bison or beaver but have had snake, whale (long story) and shark.

Cloud 02-11-2007 09:35 PM

People will eat of lot of things, just not necessarily me. Guess I'm not a people. Or maybe I'm just a 14 year old girl.

I've eaten goat in the form of cabrito--Mexican barbequed kid. It was good. And that's really about it from the list--not even venison.

Specialty meets like bison and ostrich are starting to be available in our supermarkets due to lower saturated fat. I'm sure they're okay, but I probably wouldn't eat them. Don't know why--just 'cause. I once bought frozen rabbit meat, but could never bring myself to cook it.

. . . and I'm sure most horses are eaten by something. Just not Kentucky Derby winners.

Aliantha 02-12-2007 01:28 AM

Most Australian marsupials are protected and therefore unavailable for eating. I'm with ducks on the koala thing. I doubt they'd be very tasty.

I've had several of the things mentioned in the list, along with crocodile.

You can get shark meat in most fish and chip shops here. I would have thought it would be the same everywhere.

Sundae 02-12-2007 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 314876)
You can get shark meat in most fish and chip shops here. I would have thought it would be the same everywhere.

Depends on how close the nearest sharks are I assume... I've eaten shark, but it's not commonly on the menu.

I've eaten quite a few things on the list, but missed out on the larger animals - just not available over here. I'd like to try squirrel - so may are shot/ poisoned as they damage trees, it seems wrong to waste the meat.

I ate horse in France. Can't say I was bothered one way or another. It was in a highly flavoured sauce, so I can't comment on the taste. It was tough as old boots - but I think that was lack of cooking skill/ cheap restaurant.

Sheldonrs 02-12-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 314848)
People will eat of lot of things, just not necessarily me.


I really think you should rephrase this one before some perv makes some cheap cra...oops! Too late! lol!!!

Shawnee123 02-12-2007 12:35 PM

:lol2:

barefoot serpent 02-12-2007 01:06 PM

In Africa, 'venison' can be any of various antelopes (gemsbok, kudu, etc.). And warthog is really good, too!

Cloud 02-12-2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 315018)
I really think you should rephrase this one before some perv makes some cheap cra...oops! Too late! lol!!!

I say what I mean and mean what I say.

Sometimes.

:p

wolf 02-12-2007 04:49 PM

I've had bison, venison, bear, and ostrich. No unusual fishy-bits that I can think of offhand, except maybe shark, which isn't all that unusual.

I expect you're not counting the various types of mystery meat that you get from a Chinese Restaurant.

Sheldonrs 02-12-2007 05:07 PM

I had Caribou (reindeer) in Alaska. One of the restaurants we went to had a sick (my kind of) sense of humor and would serve the reindeer sausages with a bright red cherry at the tip of one! lol!!!


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