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rkzenrage 08-18-2007 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman065 (Post 376241)
Why is that?

If you are good at something you are good at it... it is a fact, no emotion need be placed upon it.
False humility is about appeasing the envious.

DanaC 08-18-2007 04:03 PM

Bugger that for a game of soldiers. If I am good at something I am going to feel proud or even smug about it.

yesman065 08-18-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 376243)
If you are good at something you are good at it... it is a fact, no emotion need be placed upon it.
False humility is about appeasing the envious.

What is true humility about, then? What is wrong with acknowleging someone elses achievements or aptitude? Shall I not be proud of my children or my family? What is wrong with expressing that?

skysidhe 08-18-2007 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 376243)
If you are good at something you are good at it... it is a fact, no emotion need be placed upon it.
False humility is about appeasing the envious.


umm :neutral:


If false humility is about appeasing the envious then true humility is about???


Also you ( people ) will have an emotion about it regardless if it's labeled in our mind or not. You have emotion stating your beliefs. All motivation to do anything is brought on by an emotion. You can tamp it down and brush it off but it's still there 'till someday your taking pride in the fact you can deny your emotions so well. Emotions are sneaky buggers like that.:)

rkzenrage 08-18-2007 08:23 PM

True humility is about not bragging and not setting yourself above others or comparing yourself to others... has nothing to do with my point.
Completely separate issue.

lumberjim 08-18-2007 11:16 PM

true humility is unconscious of it's own humility. It seeks not to be more humble than others. It is unaware.

there lies a trap in the allure of being illuminated. To strive for illumination by seeking to excel in humility and such areas creates a counterproductive effort vacuum. to be truly humble is to be thoughtless of it.

i am not at all humble. i think i am better than you. really, i do.

honestly. might just be my survival instinct working, or something. maybe the rum.

bluecuracao 08-18-2007 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 376264)
True humility is about not bragging and not setting yourself above others or comparing yourself to others... has nothing to do with my point.
Completely separate issue.

From the thread topic--it isn't.

JuancoRocks 08-18-2007 11:24 PM

Mac Davis speaks....

"Lord it's hard to be humble, but I'm doing the best that I can"

Then goes on to say.....

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day.
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.

I used to have a girlfriend
but she just couldn't compete
with all of these love starved women
who keep clamoring at my feet.
Well I prob'ly could find me another
but I guess they're all in awe of me.
Who cares, I never get lonesome
cause I treasure my own company.

I guess you could say I'm a loner,
a cowboy outlaw tough and proud.
I could have lots of friends if I want to
but then I wouldn't stand out from the crowd.
Some folks say that I'm egotistical.
Hell, I don't even know what that means.
I guess it has something to do with the way that I
fill out my skin tight blue jeans.

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
We're doing the best that we can

rkzenrage 08-18-2007 11:24 PM

Again.
Quote:

has nothing to do with my point.
Geez... reading again.

bluecuracao 08-18-2007 11:27 PM

I made my own point. It's not always about your points, rk.

HungLikeJesus 08-19-2007 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 376307)
true humility is unconscious of it's own humility. It seeks not to be more humble than others. It is unaware.

there lies a trap in the allure of being illuminated. To strive for illumination by seeking to excel in humility and such areas creates a counterproductive effort vacuum. to be truly humble is to be thoughtless of it.

i am not at all humble. i think i am better than you. really, i do.

honestly. might just be my survival instinct working, or something. maybe the rum.

That's ironic, LJ, because I still think of you as humblejim. Perhaps you are so unconcious of your humility that you have achieved perfection.

Gosh, I hope I didn't just destroy that.

DanaC 08-19-2007 06:48 PM

Shouldn't you be off somewhere consorting with the meek?

HungLikeJesus 08-19-2007 07:12 PM

Consorting as in... consorting?

DanaC 08-19-2007 07:12 PM

What do I know, I'm not the omnipotent one

HungLikeJesus 08-19-2007 07:25 PM

But are you meek?


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