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Aliantha 10-16-2007 02:49 AM

time will tell UG.

Urbane Guerrilla 10-16-2007 02:52 AM

Or Bruce will. But I think this one is more over the top than what Bruce normally does. Funny how much it sounds like something LJ would write -- if he thought that way.

Aliantha 10-16-2007 02:55 AM

if he thought what way?

Urbane Guerrilla 10-16-2007 03:12 AM

If LJ's views on genocides were "get over it, you people." Some are willing to ascribe infinite prickishness to LordJim, but I'm not yet convinced.

xoxoxoBruce 10-16-2007 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 395602)
I think Bruce's remark was a misfired joke, myself. Bruce, hon, you know where the smilies page is...

Wrong, they should get over it.... 9-11 too.
Adjust policy and actions to prevent recurrences, but the wailing and gnashing of teeth, is not productive.
The, Oh dear, pity poor me, generations later, is bullshit.... as terrible as it was, unless it happened to you, and maybe even if it did, move on.

Spexxvet 10-16-2007 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 395576)
... are we done yet? Surely this cannot be used as a grounds for unilaterally attacking countries indefinitely. ...

I think Dick CHeney has said that if there's a 1% chance of the US being attacked again, we should take action - including ignoring the constitutional rights of US citizens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 395657)
Wrong, they should get over it.... 9-11 too.
Adjust policy and actions to prevent recurrences, but the wailing and gnashing of teeth, is not productive.
The, Oh dear, pity poor me, generations later, is bullshit.... as terrible as it was, unless it happened to you, and maybe even if it did, move on.

Do we still observe Armistice Day?

Spexxvet 10-16-2007 08:05 AM

We can't keep observing old attrocoities. We have to make room to observe the genocide of the Tutsis and Darforians/ites! :right:

Clodfobble 10-16-2007 02:04 PM

I really like the fact that tw has not posted in this thread yet. It amuses me.

SamIam 10-16-2007 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 395657)
Wrong, they should get over it.... 9-11 too.
Adjust policy and actions to prevent recurrences, but the wailing and gnashing of teeth, is not productive.
The, Oh dear, pity poor me, generations later, is bullshit.... as terrible as it was, unless it happened to you, and maybe even if it did, move on.

Well, the Jewish folks seem to want us to remember. I think that's why there's all those holocaust memorials, etc. "Lest we forget" doesn't seem to have had much of an impact, though, what with Cambodia's Killing Fields, Sri Lanka, the "disappeared" of Argentina, the awful civil war in Rwanda - on and sadly on.

I think what we should remember and try to change if we can is man's inhumanity to man. Sadly, there will always be ethnic conflicts. Maybe someday, enough people will finally get the idea that its not nice to kill or torture one another based on ethnicity or race or creed. I know, I'm a hopeless dreamer. But someday maybe?

Ibby 10-16-2007 05:40 PM

You say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one...

Aliantha 10-16-2007 05:49 PM

What about sierra leon and other diamond countries in Africa?

I watched a doco on this last night and although I knew what happened/s there is attrocious, it still makes me sick when I see things like that again.

I want to know why the US doesn't step into those situations. If they want to go and make Iraq free, why can't they go and make sierra leon free? What's the difference? The RUF are just as much terrorists as AQ or any of the rest.

Someone, please tell me what the fucking difference is before I blow a gasket.

elSicomoro 10-16-2007 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 395768)
I really like the fact that tw has not posted in this thread yet. It amuses me.

Maybe we need to throw in the following words:

Israel
Bush
Economist
dichead
Sharon
MBA

xoxoxoBruce 10-16-2007 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 395834)
What about sierra leon and other diamond countries in Africa?

I watched a doco on this last night and although I knew what happened/s there is attrocious, it still makes me sick when I see things like that again.

I want to know why the US doesn't step into those situations. If they want to go and make Iraq free, why can't they go and make sierra leon free? What's the difference? The RUF are just as much terrorists as AQ or any of the rest.

Someone, please tell me what the fucking difference is before I blow a gasket.

Why the fuck doesn't Australia step in and do something about it?

Aliantha 10-16-2007 06:16 PM

We weren't the ones that ran off to liberate Iraq although we were pretty quick to jump on the bandwagon. I'm sure we'd do the same again...and will continue to do so in the future, and in this case, I would support the move because I would consider it to be more altruistic although I'm sure there'd be some profit in there.

Did you know that Angola (another conflict diamond nation) is one of the richest countries in the world as far as natural resources go? Why not save them? I'm sure there'd be benefits.

However, the question I asked was, what's the difference? Can you tell me that?

xoxoxoBruce 10-16-2007 06:21 PM

We don't need no stinkin' diamonds.


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