The Cellar - November 15, 2007: Caganer - the defecator in the Catalan Nativity scene

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HungLikeJesus

11-14-2007 07:28 PM

UT - have you considered using ISO 8601 standard date format (YYYY-MM-DD)?

November 15, 2007 -> 2007-11-15

This allows you to sort by date easier.

Here's a link where the date format is discussed.

Undertoad

11-14-2007 08:59 PM

I believe in that standard, and I use it often, but here the date used in a more human way, the way one actually consumes months and days.

People are not sort-friendly, nor should they ever be.

Elspode

11-14-2007 10:18 PM

Okay, so the Wikipedia explains *what* the caganer is, but...*why* is this character present? Is it just for a little added humor, or is there some more serious shit involved?

sandypossum

11-15-2007 12:16 AM

Elspode, it's something to do with bringing the family/village good fortune; bringing fertility to the land in the coming year, and therefore good crops etc. Maybe it has a pagan history to it, and got integrated into the Christian festival. I'm pretty sure some of our more common Xmas rituals are pagan leftovers too, although I can't remember which.

I also found this lovely article from BoingBoing about related pooey Catalan Christmas traditions.

Scriveyn

11-15-2007 02:08 AM

... and the angels s---ing ...

(How much room for angel poo on the tip of a needle?)
:folks:

Spexxvet

11-15-2007 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 407199)

... the way one actually consumes months and days...

Interesting concept. I never considered it tht way....

ZenGum

11-15-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sandypossum (Post 407262)

SNIP
I'm pretty sure some of our more common Xmas rituals are pagan leftovers too, although I can't remember which.

Pretty much all of them! Bunnies and eggs, holly and mistletoe, full moons and equinoxes and solstices .... go figure.

Ohh another Ostray-yun. Gedday mate. Crikey, three Victorians eh?

Nikolai

11-18-2007 01:16 PM

Same shit, different Christmas

Gravdigr

11-23-2007 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode (Post 407230)

Okay, so the Wikipedia explains *what* the caganer is, but...*why* is this character present? Is it just for a little added humor, or is there some more serious shit involved?

In a month you too will wish that you could just take a shit and be done w/Xmas. :Flush:

ZenGum

12-08-2007 10:22 AM

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Mud figures, of President George W. Bush, France's President Nicolas Sarkozy (C) and Spain's Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, known as "caganer" (defecator in Catalan language) are sold at the Santa Llucia Christmas market in central Barcelona December 4, 2007. Catalans create Christmas Nativity scenes using models and hide the figures, known as "caganer" or defecator in Catalan, in them before inviting friends to find the figures. Catalans believe the "caganer", by creating faeces, fertilises the earth and brings prosperity and luck for the coming year.

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