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Clodfobble 12-09-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Ya know.. what's the reason for the curly-Q at the end? Tradition? No modern instruments have that, the headstock is just a design to be trademarked and sued over.

Modern instruments like the guitar and... what else? I guess you could go into the banjo/mandola/mandolin subsets. As far as I know, it's just tradition, but you do have innovators every now and then.

Undertoad 12-09-2007 10:49 AM

Well I am a bass player, where the idea is to get the most out of your long wavelengths, and no bass has a heavy headstock.

Clodfobble 12-09-2007 10:59 AM

Mea culpa, I completely forgot about the bass. :blush:

But yours is electric, right? On a string bass all of the resonance depends on the body, which is huge compared to the headstock. The cello head looks big in Steve's picture, but it really isn't very massive overall.

glatt 12-09-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 414770)
You may be able to tap out a slightly larger diameter hole and use a standard sized screw.

This is still the only idea i can come up with - sorry.

I think it's a good idea, but Steve probably doesn't have the tools.

Undertoad 12-09-2007 03:35 PM

Yeah, but is there any physics reason why you need a big weight on the end of the neck in order to get resonance out of your body?

Aliantha 12-09-2007 03:53 PM

I think it would have to do with the length of the neck of the instrument and simply keeping it weighted so it balances nicely on the shoulder rather than flying off when you draw the bow. If it doesn't have a bit of weight in the neck you'd be using your hand to hold it in place rather than concentrating on getting your fingers in the right spot.

That's only a guess, but my family is pretty highly into stringed instruments, so I've had plenty of time to look at what they do when they play.

classicman 12-09-2007 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 414770)
You may be able to tap out a slightly larger diameter hole and use a standard sized screw.

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 414840)
I think it's a good idea, but Steve probably doesn't have the tools.

It would be a lot less than having a new screw made though. (actually its a bolt) and the Lowes/Home Depot? hardware store definitely has what he needs. Also, if he is tapping into brass, it'll be very easy since its such a soft metal.

SteveDallas 12-09-2007 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 414769)
Ya know.. what's the reason for the curly-Q at the end? Tradition? No modern instruments have that, the headstock is just a design to be trademarked and sued over.

Just traditional as far as I know... even modern students cellos, violins, etc. have scrolls like that.

Update: we found the screw when sweeping up. (Obviously, it eluded us when we were actually looking for it.) Now we are still missing one of the gears... I know I put them both together. It's here somewhere...... :headshake

classicman 12-09-2007 05:34 PM

Good to hear you found it! Now replacing that gear would be a whole different situation.

Cloud 12-09-2007 07:58 PM

for some reason, I just wanna keep clicking on this thread . . .

Clodfobble 12-09-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Yeah, but is there any physics reason why you need a big weight on the end of the neck in order to get resonance out of your body?

No but... I'm telling you, it isn't big or heavy. Look how narrow it is. Overly decorative, perhaps, but the whole thing can be enclosed in the palm of your hand.

ZenGum 12-09-2007 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 414844)
Yeah, but is there any physics reason why you need a big weight on the end of the neck in order to get resonance out of your body?

There might be.
A while back I was browsing in a guitar shop and saw an accessory for electric guitarists, a heavy weight to clamp on to the head right at the end, with the claim that it would improve sustain and maintain the clarity of the tone over the whole length of the note.
I can imagine how this might work. If the string is vibrating it will tend to pass its vibrations on to the head. The head will begin vibrating, probably at a different frequency, thus creating interference with the string's vibration. This interference would mess up the purity of the string's vibration and lead to shorter sustain. Increasing the mass of the head might reduce this effect by keeping the head stable.
I did not buy one. I have not tested it. I am not a physicist. I have not even googled it. I just made this up. But it sounds good... until someone shoots it down. :ducks for cover:


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