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lol! Grizzly...I noticed that too...I started to get confused about the actual location of these events.

I think you should contemplate moving Cloud. Srsly. What happened to moving? If you think I am telling you to run, I am. No harm in it. When the crime takes over your area, the quality of your life decreases significantly. Why not go somewhere that you don't have to worry about it on a daily basis...whether you are going to get robbed or not..etc.

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 456601)

yeah, decapitated bodies lying strewn about are Not. Good. Needless to say, I won't be crossing the border anytime soon--at least not into Juarez.

But I miss Mexico! I want to go San Miguel de Allende and rent a villa there for a while. And never come back.

It is not such a bad thing...;)

So, 1,000 people dead so far. I mean, it's practically inconceivable.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_10573358

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The official death count is 984 through August when towns and villages on the outskirts of Juárez and other communities in northern Chihuahua are included.

can you get me ganja?

Border Patrol and Customs are siezing that stuff by the truckload down here.

One of the reasons I am going back to OTR driving is my desire to buy new and higher quality firearms than I currently own. The drug wars are a big part of that decision.

Even my wife, a native-born El Pasoan, is starting to look at real estate elsewhere, although she denies it's due to the rapidly rising crime rate here and just across the border.

But she doesn't fool me... I see her eyes and feel her emotions on the rare occasions that we travel across the border. She is getting scared.

I even worry since I'm not going to be home to protect her and the dogs (dog theft is rising, too) while I'm earning a living.

If only we would hit a big lottery and be able to retire with all the things we want. Sigh. I could see myself on a twenty-acre spread with horses, dogs and an airstrip.

She wants to buy new furniture, clothes and the usual girl stuff. I want something typically guy-ish. This:

So back to work I go. But I still dream of a small farm/ranch in the Smoky Mountains.

Cops can't help, you have to help yourself.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...YviEwD93F8OD00

the death toll is about 1400 so far this year. A stone's throw from the second or third safest city in the US. It's just unbeliveable. From Newsweek:

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The border between El Paso (population: 600,000) and Juárez (population: 1.5 million) is the most menacing spot along America's southern underbelly. On one side is the second-safest city of its size in the United States (after Honolulu), with only 15 murders so far in 2008. On the other is a slaughterhouse ruled by drug lords where the death toll this year is more than 1,300 and counting. "I don't think the average American has any idea of what's going on immediately south of our border," says Kevin Kozak, acting special agent in charge of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement's office of investigations in El Paso. "It's almost beyond belief." Juárez looks a lot like a failed state, with no government entity capable of imposing order and a profusion of powerful organizations that kill and plunder at will. It's as if the United States faced another lawless Waziristan—except this one happens to be right at the nation's doorstep.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/171251

Do you ever think about moving Cloud? I don't think I'd want to live in an area like that.

but the only place safer in the US is Honolulu, which is a bit far.

it's paradoxical.

I think I'd be scared of it spilling over the boarder.

people are scared of that, yes. But so far, it really hasn't happened.

legalizing marijuana would help a great deal, I think, 'tho there are other drugs.

Well, I hope for your sake that where you live stays safe. :)

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 510465)

but the only place safer in the US is Honolulu, which is a bit far.

it's paradoxical.

Where did you get that notion. I lived in Hawaii for 3 years, I would hardly call it the model of low crime rates.

yeah the problem with eliminating the suppliers is that if a demand exists, a new supplier will step to the plate. You need to eliminate the market. Flooding the market with cheap or even free product for a generation would solve a lot of problems...