:blush: Humm. Spell check doesn't catch crap like that.:bolt:

You mean the p should have been a b?

no horseys last night. Stretched and drank a calcium emergenc-c before bed. yay!

I got in the habit of giving myself charlie horses (my calves and quadriceps) every night before I went to bed, from the time I was about 9 until I was about 11. I did this until the muscles were exhausted and wouldn't charlie-horse anymore.

My calves got big and well-defined doing this. And, well, charlie horses don't bug me one bit when one comes involuntarily. I think I've developed a high level of cramp-control.

I feel very weird admitting this to anyone.

How did you give yourself charley horses?

if you get a calf cramp, jump out of bed and stand on that leg. no shit. it's the only thing that makes them go away immediately.

a couple of the sites also mention pinching the space between your upper lip and nose. Think I could do that whilst simultaneously standing on one foot after waking from a deep sleep?

Flex the muscle until it cramps, and continue flexing until the cramp becomes involuntary.

So you can control a charley horse by twitching yourself? :)

how . . . apt.

I get cramps via dehydration - at least I assume that's what it is, I get them in the early hours of the morning after I've seriously tied one on.

An ex of mine used to get them all the time, and he had big muscles, so that's a lot of hurt. The first time I had one in his company (during sex OF COURSE!) he was amazed that I didn't know how to relieve a cramp.

Work the muscle naturally.

So a foot cramp, flex the foot, a calf cramp, flex the calf etc. I was gutted that no-one had suggested it before. Of course it was kinda cute to have someone else manipulating my calf to show me what he meant ;)

I get them less now because at the first hint I just gently start flexing.