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DanaC 10-27-2008 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 498213)
Hormones are pretty good at the moment, although I think I've had a boost of serotonin since dazza got home, so my humour bone might be working better than other times. ;)

I'll say...you've been bouncing about the Cellar like a christmas elf on a pogo stick *grins*

Aliantha 10-27-2008 08:37 PM

Yes well, you could not have used a better analogy than the pogo stick that's for sure. lol

DanaC 10-27-2008 08:52 PM

lol I see.

tw 10-27-2008 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 498139)
The rest of the media does seem infatuated with Obama.

News is reported based on fundamental facts. Obama is running a clean and well organized campaign. McCain's campaign has suffered from schizophrenia ever since it inherited right wing Republican extremists on the staff. McCain's campaign was lead by moderates; voted for by moderate Republicans and independents. The same campaign was changed weeks before the Republican convention as it inherited right wing extremist Republicans. The campaign that earned McCain a Republican nomination would have never considered or selected Sarah Palin. His campaign now suffers from schizophrenia. As a result, McCain had to personally condemn his own supporters for promoting hate and racism. And that is what is properly reported in the news.

You can view that as bias. But the bottom line is that McCain was the adversary of and has condemned the same people who blindly support George Jr. Now McCain must ask for their support when their extremist agenda is difficult for McCain to accept.

On the day that AIG was crashing, McCain's speech writers wrote what they had written for George Jr. "The fundamentals of our economy are sound." Just another example of the schizophrenia since even McCain knew that was not true. Now McCain’s campaign must throw dirt and lies rather than deal with fundamental issues.

How does McCain claim to represent the interests of America without also condemning “Mission Accomplished”, the all but protect bin Laden action, this economic meltdown directly traceable to Republican party welfare to the rich and outright government corruption (K Street), destruction of the Oslo Accords, the foolish and embarrassing Middle East conference in Annapolis, and even how a silly spy plane incident was handled. How does McCain show he would never be that stupid and yet still get votes from wacko extremist George Jr supporters? McCain’s problem is apparent in the news stories – that some call bias.

Unhelpful is George Jr who calls for more corporate welfare. George Jr is now offering GM some of the $700billion TARP only intended to thaw credit markets. It’s no accident that George Jr would protect anti-American GM and its corrupt management - just as George Jr also enriched Haliburton. If McCain was running a McCain campaign, then he would have lead the charge against continuous George Jr corruption. The McCain whose campaign now contains wacko extremists cannot properly criticize George Jr. Just another reason why McCain is losing moderate and indepdent support – the people who nominated McCain to oppose those extremists.

Schizophrenia is a fact that belongs in the news. Schizophrenia because McCain had so often been critical of what Urbane Guerrilla, TheMercenary, classicman, and lookout123 have so often posted.

DanaC 10-27-2008 09:33 PM

Hahahah, look at this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/ame...08/7692731.stm

TheMercenary 10-27-2008 09:39 PM

Actually that paper is a pretty well known left leaner, and Anchorage is a pretty liberal town. No surprise there. The Daily Miner (Fairbanks) or the Juneau paper, it would have been a bigger deal.

classicman 10-27-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 498222)
My personal favourite Bushism:

The French have no word for entrepeneur.

Either he's genuinely thick as pig shit, or he's a fucking genius.

But at least they spell it correctly :P
Oh and he's certainly NOT a fucking genius.

classicman 10-27-2008 09:42 PM

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Why, for example to quote the lawyer for Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., haven't we seen an interview with Sen. Obama's grad school drug dealer -- when we know all about Mrs. McCain's addiction? Are Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko that hard to interview? All those phony voter registrations that hard to scrutinize? And why are Sen. Biden's endless gaffes almost always covered up, or rationalized, by the traditional media? So why weren't those legions of hungry reporters set loose on the Obama campaign? Who are the real villains in this story of mainstream media betrayal?
From someone who is extremely well respected and has been in the business for decades. I'll take his word for it. Those of you who, for the most part agree, certainly won't see it that way. I understand that. What will be interesting is how he is treated over the next 4-8 years.

Sundae 10-28-2008 06:10 AM

Thing is, this left leaning press had absoluely no impact over the last 8 years. So even if the bias exists - and not reading the American papers or watching the American news I honestly can't say - it does not influence the way people vote.

So what's the problem, apart from making you tut and sigh and roll your eyes? I do that when I read our right wing press (and there are more right than left wing papers in the UK). But at least it challenges my perceptions.

classicman 10-28-2008 07:52 AM

I disagree. I think the press has a great deal of power. In many respects they are virtually the only source of information. Many people still look to the media and take what they offer as impartial - the way it should be. That just isn't the way it is anymore. I'm not sure thats possible either - unfortunately. I see the media one way or the other. They seem to be campaigning for "their" candidate usually in very subtle ways, yet as of late very blatant.

xoxoxoBruce 10-28-2008 08:54 AM

There is also the danger of not believing anything they say, and assuming the opposite is true... like reading a UG post.;)

DanaC 10-28-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 498378)
There is also the danger of not believing anything they say, and assuming the opposite is true... like reading a UG post.;)


*shakes head* no, that would require that UG's views exist in some small way along the same spectrum as the rest of us...can't just go with the opposite of what he says, have to jump off those mental rails entirely and find a whole other track.

xoxoxoBruce 10-28-2008 09:10 AM

Touché. :haha:

classicman 10-28-2008 12:32 PM

I look at it like this. Everyone get to be represented in a democracy, right? Now their level of representation all depends on their desire to be heard. He is being heard and thats a good thing.

TheMercenary 10-28-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 498440)
I look at it like this. Everyone get to be represented in a democracy, right? Now their level of representation all depends on their desire to be heard. He is being heard and thats a good thing.

Ahhhh, yes, but the squeaky wheel getting the grease and a minority special interest group rasing a fuss to get their way are two different things. Not always good.


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