Oh, so because they aren't willing to clean up their act, we shouldn't do it either? That is just dumb.

Maybe you forget which nation embarrassed the United States by advocating all nations (including themselves) conform to principles in the Koyoto Treaty? China. TheMercenary forgot to mention that major embarrassment when the US was the only nation in that international conference opposed to addressing global warming.

Well the days when America operates with contempt for the world is (hopefully) over.

No, because it will continue to place a massive economic burden to make the changes while China and India have no controls or requirements and they can grow without the same cost. It is a great plan, if you are China and India. For the US, not so much.

Continues.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090328/...ying_computers

Wasn't there a thread about Chinese hackers last year or so?
One article I read said that spam had a lot to do with this too. I can't find it now, but any of you IT guys have any input on this? How can they control my computer remotely?

That is a pretty scary thought. They supposedly hacked into sensitive areas and were able to listen remotely or use the camera to see the room. Makes you seriously consider what you should leave attached to the puter when you are not using it. But of course I just turn mine off.

yes, that is very scary.

No it's not. We all look the same to them, so it doesn't matter.

Front page of Cnn.com

Creeping up on us

Kinda like the cow's heading toward the slaughterhouse...They never know they are heading there, they just keep following the cow in front of them.:(

There is no 'them.' We have hackers combing through Chinese, Russian and Iranian servers as well. So them, as it turns out, is everybody. Which is as it has been for as long as anyone can remember.

Of course, you won't see a story in the Chinese, Russian or Iranian media about a major infiltration by US-led hackers. While this gives one the impression that we (the US) are getting our asses handed to us while we sit on our government butts eating jelly donuts, nothing could be further from the truth.

We can only see one side of the scoreboard. The game, in all likelihood, is either tied or with at most a marginal and ever-changing lead.

Which is how the intelligence community silenced all the hype and fear from the George Jr administration. They were reading memos from Iranian scientists on the uranium enrichment program. These scientists were often discussing how the mullahs were subverting the program due to perceived stupidity. Suddenly Iran did not have any bomb grade material because even the US government subverts computers.

Under the new powers of Fatherland Security and secret presidential findings, how much government is now legally tapping your computer? You also cannot be trusted. You too can be a sleeper cell.

Cite an example of that please. What industry has employees wait up to a decade for their pay?

False. Please CITE ONE TIME where I said anything about Wagoner deserving bonuses - Post anything to corroborate another of your blatant LIES. If not post an public apology and correction on the board. I have put up with you and your attacks for too long. It stops now. Either make your point with facts or STFU.

It's pretty common for high rollers to defer compensation or get delayed stock options, so they will collect after their income level drops for tax purposes, or to get a bigger deal by waiting to collect.
Of course we're talking people that make seven figures yearly to begin with. :whofart:
Actually, employer's matching funds in a 401k is pretty much the same deal.

Its not pay. Its a bonus. If you wanted to be intelligent, you would have known that.

If bonus is merit pay, then the pay should be determined when the merit is actually realized - four or ten years later. Is that too complicated for a wacko extremist? Probably.

This post contradicts what tw has posted earlier. Care to try again and either put-up or man-up and apologize.
Oh Whats the matter Tommy boy? Have to try to attack my intelligence now? You will lose terribly on that account as well. Try another or......