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xoxoxoBruce 07-10-2009 10:11 AM

The "point" is, what do you do? You can't just close a marriage like a bad book. This isn't a high school romance that you can just walk away from, it's a working arrangement that must work or be replaced with something else that works. Kids can't be unborn and they need food & shelter.

smoothmoniker 07-10-2009 11:00 AM

What a tough spot you're in.

First, you can't un-discover what you found. The suspicion is there now, and the suspicion will grow whether you feed it or not. Soon, it will start to become the filter by which you judge every action. You'll see suspicious behavior where there may be none, and you'll start to change your emotional relationship in exactly the same way you would if you knew he was cheating.

But ... once you make that accusation, it can never be unmade. If you're wrong, he will feel like you have lost all respect for him, all trust, and he will start to withdraw from the relationship. What a horrible thing it would be to make the accusation and be wrong; I think it would have almost the same consequences as an actual affair.

I have no idea what I would do. I know what I would want to do - jump back in time and never check the cell phone. But here, now, in this situation, I have no idea, only sympathy.

Shawnee123 07-10-2009 11:09 AM

Heck, if you could go back in time, everyone could get unmarried and unprocreate.

Undertoad 07-10-2009 01:51 PM

Does Anon have anything to say about what has been posted in the last 6 days?

lumberjim 07-10-2009 02:27 PM

i think maybe anon has his or her closure, and isn't too worried about everyone else having theirs. which is as it should be.

TheMercenary 07-10-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 579605)
If I were in your position, I'd bring the subject up very plainly. If you've been through counselling etc, then surely he must have some understanding of how your mind and emotions work if not just from being married to you for that length of time. Simply say you were suspicious, so you snooped. Big deal. If he's got nothing to hide he surely will understand. If he does, well, only you can know what to do from there.

I am with Ali on this. Bring it up very matter of factly. See what plays out. You say you are not interested in divorce but are you really willing to share your husband with another woman? Well plenty of people do, I am just asking. What I mean is plenty of people go through life knowing their spouses are cheating and just go with it. I am not sure I could do that but it happens. I say if you wait it will fester, inside you and inside whatever relationship he is having. Just my 2 cents.

MoonFreckle 07-12-2009 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 580693)
The "point" is, what do you do? You can't just close a marriage like a bad book. This isn't a high school romance that you can just walk away from, it's a working arrangement that must work or be replaced with something else that works. Kids can't be unborn and they need food & shelter.

The point of having kids is to make them happy...when a marriage fails and all is miserable and you can cut the air with a knife that doesn't make for happy families.
Maybe i should have pointed out that had my spouse to be cheated on me before we even got to the alter, there really is no point in my eyes, how could they truly love only me for the next 50yrs. Yeah he'd stay happy for a few years but leopards cant change their spots. The warning bells would have peeling for me long before I ever got to the alter. Yes kids are unfortunately the inocent ones in all of our messed up adult crap and no can't be reborn. But if nothing else they should be looked upon as a blessing by both parents be they together or seperated. Hopefully it's all innocent for the family's sake.
Sometimes the best for all concerned is to part.

xoxoxoBruce 07-12-2009 11:26 AM

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The point of having kids is to make them happy
Make whom happy, the kids? The parents?
If the kids, and/or parents, can be happy that's lovely. But the duty of the parents is to make sure the kids survive, and are taught how to survive on their own when they grow up.

Aliantha 07-12-2009 05:01 PM

People don't always cheat for the same reasons, and often, cheating in itself is not really the reason for the infidelity. That's why counselling can be so helpful in patching a relationship up after the fact. Sure there are people out there who just like the thrill of it all. Maybe they should take up an extreme sport instead.

The father of my two oldest boys cheated on me when I was 7 months pregnant with the first son. In hindsight, I should have left him then, but I didn't. I'm glad I stayed because I was then blessed with my next son and I just can't imagine life without him. Kids are often the result of a relationship, but they shouldn't be a reason for having one. On the flip side of that, I will say that I think if kids are involved, the parents should explore all avenues before deciding to call it quits. It's always going to be preferable to live together as a family unit.

MoonFreckle 07-13-2009 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 581043)
Make whom happy, the kids? The parents?
If the kids, and/or parents, can be happy that's lovely. But the duty of the parents is to make sure the kids survive, and are taught how to survive on their own when they grow up.

Well that's when it comes to the parents being adults an insuring that the kids get that chance to be happy..i know plenty of well adjusted kids with divorced parents. And just as a many adults that have parents who divorced when they were young.Again it comes back to us adults being adults about it all. What's the point of making it ugly...if its done its done...Think of the kids i say:right:

TheMercenary 07-15-2009 07:04 AM

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The point of having kids is to make them happy
That is utter BS. The responsibility of having kids is to make them contributing members of society who can stand on their own 2 feet without support and hopefully do something more than work at Starbucks. It is not to make them happy or become their best friends. In the end if you can do that it is a bonus. Hopefully they will become happy adults because of how you raised them. There are no promises that can or should happen.

dar512 07-15-2009 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 581649)
That is utter BS. The responsibility of having kids is to make them contributing members of society who can stand on their own 2 feet without support and hopefully do something more than work at Starbucks. It is not to make them happy or become their best friends. In the end if you can do that it is a bonus. Hopefully they will become happy adults because of how you raised them. There are no promises that can or should happen.

+1

Stormieweather 07-15-2009 01:01 PM

I am of the opinion that a happy, fulfilled person is a better parent than an unhappy, miserable person whose sole adult purpose is to raise their children.

Staying in an unloving relationship for the sake of the kids, not making time to pursue one's own goals, and neglecting one's personal well being is not a healthy example and role model for one's children.

BigV 07-15-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 581043)
Make whom happy, the kids? The parents?
If the kids, and/or parents, can be happy that's lovely. But the duty of the parents is to make sure the kids survive, and are taught how to survive on their own when they grow up.

Outstanding.

BigV 07-15-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 581649)
That is utter BS. The responsibility of having kids is to make them contributing members of society who can stand on their own 2 feet without support and hopefully do something more than work at Starbucks. It is not to make them happy or become their best friends. In the end if you can do that it is a bonus. Hopefully they will become happy adults because of how you raised them. There are no promises that can or should happen.

Also outstanding.


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